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  Marrying a non-believer?

  by sparky79 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am currently dating a jehovas-witness, and have been for a while.

  we have talked about marriage, but a lot of what i hear and read is that for her to marry a non-believer is frowned upon by others in the religion.

  i am a non-believer of any religion.

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  It really depends, I think, on if she truly believes in it or if she is going to leave it.

  I am a non-believer (like you, of any religion) and I married a Witness. When we met, he was an active Witness -- but in our earliest conversations he told me he did not believe in it and was just going to appease his family. He stopped attending meetings after we started dating seriously. He did not stop going BECAUSE of me, nor did I ever ask him not to go - it was his decision, and I was just there for encouragement. He fortunately was never disfellowshipped, so he is now just inactive and can still have a relationship with his family.

  Yet planning our wedding was the most stressful time of my life because of that religion. We were not allowed to have Witness family members in the wedding, and many Witnesses with whom my husband was close refused to come. It was hard -- but in the end, wholly worth it!

  So I guess my advice is this: If she is willing to put YOU first, then I wouldn't just run. But the problem is, if she still actively believes, she will not put you first. You should also know (if you don't) that in many cases, if she marries you and stops attending, she could be disfellowshipped and would not be allowed any contact with her family. Now, she is a big girl, so she should know/understand that. But if that happens, people will blame YOU. She might later blame you, and you might feel guilt yourself -- not to mention all the Witnesses who will blame you and cast you as Satan. It is a hard position to be in.

  I don't think there's a clear right-or-wrong choice. Running like hell would probably be in the easiest option, especially (I think) if she will not put you first. In a marriage, YOU have to be her priority (and she has to be yours), not that crack-head religion. If she won't do that, then don't marry her... because you will not be treated right. However, if she will put you first, if you two are truly in that life-long love that you just KNOW you cannot leave, and if you are willing to put up with A LOT OF CRAP - then it is certainly your decision, and perhaps love will conquer all.

  I know it did for me.

  Best of luck, and welcome to the board.
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  Why Do People WANT To Become One of Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  why do you think people choose to join this religion??

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  I think when new studies are taught about disfellowshipping, it is some abstract concept -- and those imaginary beings who are theoretically disfellowshipped are worshipping Satan, using drugs, kicking puppies, and doing some heinous things -- so it is OKAY in the newcomer's mind that they would be expelled.

  That is my purely hypothetical opinion. But it seems reasonable... they don't think of real people, of decent, kind, loving people getting disfellowshipped -- only some invisible, purely evil people.

  My two cents, as always...

  SLM
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  Can someone be "saved" just by reading the Bible?

  by somebodylovesme in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  awhile back, i read one of those pages with questions to ask jws.

  one question was something to the effect of: "can someone be saved by just reading the bible?

  " -- and the page said the bible says that this is true, but (obviously) witnesses teach the obvious.

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  somebodylovesme

  Azaria -

  I don't think I worded my question very well. What I meant was, if you BELIEVE in the Bible, believe in the God of the Bible, believe Jesus died for your sins, etc -- read and wholly believe the Bible -- but NOT go to Church... then can you be saved.

  I'm not religious at all, but I remember someone had written an argument AGAINST Witnesses' works-based salvations, and I wanted to pinpoint their support. Thanks!

  SLM
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  Can someone be "saved" just by reading the Bible?

  by somebodylovesme in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  awhile back, i read one of those pages with questions to ask jws.

  one question was something to the effect of: "can someone be saved by just reading the bible?

  " -- and the page said the bible says that this is true, but (obviously) witnesses teach the obvious.

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  somebodylovesme

  Awhile back, I read one of those pages with questions to ask JWs. One question was something to the effect of: "Can someone be saved by just reading the Bible?" -- and the page said the Bible says that this is true, but (obviously) Witnesses teach the obvious. However, I can't remember what this page was or what Bible verse they cited as supporting Bible-only salvation. I'd like to know the verse and specifics on this ... I think it could be a good one to bring up if things ever get heated with the dubs I know. ;)

  Thanks in advance!

  SLM
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  Does anyone have the Dateline show on video ????

  by run dont walk in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  anyone here have a copy of the dateline show, been looking for it with no luck, .

  anyone have a copy ?????

  i do have two great canadian shows on tape if anyone needs them .

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  Blondie, You are AWESOME! Thanks for sharing that link!! :)
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  JWs and Evolution - Reasoning with the "facts" ?

  by somebodylovesme in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am in the process of hunting down every "source" the jws use in their books to "discredit" evolution.

  i think it could be fun.

  for instance - robert jastrow, the first scientist cited in the reasoning book, wrote in the same book: "the fact of evolution is not in doubt" (the enchanted loom, pg.

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  somebodylovesme

  Thanks for the links -- gotta run right now, but I will definitely check out your pages, Alan.

  ~ Thanks again.
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  JWs and Evolution - Reasoning with the "facts" ?

  by somebodylovesme in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am in the process of hunting down every "source" the jws use in their books to "discredit" evolution.

  i think it could be fun.

  for instance - robert jastrow, the first scientist cited in the reasoning book, wrote in the same book: "the fact of evolution is not in doubt" (the enchanted loom, pg.

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  somebodylovesme

  I am in the process of hunting down every "source" the JWs use in their books to "discredit" evolution. I think it could be fun. For instance - Robert Jastrow, the first scientist cited in the Reasoning book, wrote in the same book: "The fact of evolution is not in doubt" (The Enchanted Loom, pg. 96).

  Has anyone done this before? I don't trust the Society to be academically honest, so I am especially interested in checking out those quotes that have "..." between lines -- meaning they could and probably did eliminate important qualifiers.

  hee hee

  SLM
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  witness/non-witness romance- how'd yours fare? Check in!

  by detective in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm just doing this as an easy reference point for our new board members who came here seeking advice on their witness/non-witness romantic relationships.

  questions for board members: .

  * have you been in this type of relationship?

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  somebodylovesme

  I started dating an active Witness (my now-husband) - however, he was only in it "for show" because his family was/is still in the religion. He stopped attending meetings after we started dating, although I never asked him to do so. I have maintained and still do that if he ever wanted to go back, I would not stand in his way. Fortunately, I do not think that would ever happen for many reasons.

  Back to the point ~ I have never been a Witness but have learned a whole lot!! We had to face a lot of opposition in our relationship, as you can imagine. Wedding planning was the WORST. I cried a LOT. But we made it through, and marriage has been the easiest and most joyous time. I love every minute.

  Even in the worst times, I never regretted anything, and my husband tells me he wouldn't change a thing, either. His goal is to never set foot in a Hall again. :)

  So that's our story!
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  Got a visit from JW's yesterday

  by doodle-v in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i should have known that on a beautiful saturday morning that dubs we be crawling the neighborhood.

  we've been living in this neighborhood for about a year and a half and we are usually home on saturdays.

  this was the first visit we?ve gotten from them.

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  somebodylovesme

  That was awesome!! I wish Witnesses would come here... but our complex has a "no solicitation" policy. Dang. Someday, I hope to have the same opportunity to make some poor pioneer actually think for him/herself.

  *rubbing hands together devilishly*

  ;)
  SLM
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  Trunk Monkey

  by Gadget in

  1. social
  2. humour

  http://www.justwheelin.ca/video/monkey1.wmv

  http://www.justwheelin.ca/video/monkey2.wmv

  http://www.justwheelin.ca/video/monkey3.wmv

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  somebodylovesme

  I LOVE the trunk monkey!!!!