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  Feb. 15th WT - WT Society says DFed Ones are Lawless- Just Like Demons

  by flipper in

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  2. friends

  i would assume that some or a good number of us here as normal humans in this society - consider " lawless " actions to include murder , robbery, extortion, rape, child abuse, war , terrorism, etc.

  the wt society has their own definition of what's considered " lawless ".

  anything that's considered a disfellowshipping offense in the jehovah's witnesses is now considered " lawless ".

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  What makes me SO sad is that the WT makes the followers believe that they are actually showing LOVE by not talking to df'd/da'd ones. In MY world, ones shows LOVE by being there for their friend/family, not shunning them. Human contact whether a physical contact or a kind word is healing and NEEDED.

  That.

  It's no wonder why we need to de-program from all these warped WTBTS teachings when we walk away. They twist what's natural in our hearts into some theocratic mandate under the banner of LOVE in order to control people's behavior and do what's contrary to what we feel is right and just.

  Those who just do what they're told while trusting the man behind the curtain will walk away from this article believing they are being more loving by following the shunning policy than not. More loving = good. My parents will believe it is more loving to cut off natural affection to their flesh and blood than to be human...viewing their conscientious daughter in the same lawless light as a demon.

  This article will have huge emotional impact on many.

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  "The FDS has lovingly given us time"

  by Crisis of Conscience in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  boy am i tired of hearing this one.

  yes folks, i heard it at the meeting this week...again.

  the sm included a local needs part and this was the subject - family worship night.. apparently, regarding fwn, that time was never, nor now is, ours.

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  Prediction: Time slips will be modified to include a place to note regular participation / hours spent in FWN.

  That way monitoring will be easy, publishers will be prompted monthly and guilted into reporting their activity (or not).

  What a great self-regulating control method!

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  Hypocrisy 101 - Watchtower has Payed for College/College Courses for Bethelites!

  by Crisis of Conscience in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  no you did not read the title wrong.

  i was out to eat this weekend with two bethelites.

  one gave a talk in my hall and i was invited out to dinner with them by another family in my hall.. as the conversation always turns to "spiritual" things, the subject of education was brought up.

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  Do as we say, not as we do.

  Isn't it interesting how man can determine who is and who is not "faithful in their service."

  While Sister Single Parent sits at the Thursday night meeting feeling guilty about taking nursing courses to support her family, Bethel Powers get to cherry pick the best of the best to build their army for Theocratic Warfare.

  I guess the best answer to prying noses would be to say, "I'm taking courses/going to college to better support my service to Jehovah." What could they say to that?

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  In all honesty...

  by Nephilim in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in all honesty... the blokes that thought up this whole scheme in the first place truly have won.

  they got their money.

  they had their power.

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  I'm a born-in too, and hear ya. Here's a :::hug::: for you, because at times you will feel forever alone, but in reality, you have some wonderful opportunities for new beginnings, PLUS a unique and compassionate understanding for anyone else coming out of a similiar situation. You'll make an awesome friend to many, believe me! :) (Bookmark this thread and come back to it in a few years, you'll see.)

  Black Sheep is right about the pre-cult personality thing. When I began my fade (about 15 years ago), the first thing I had to figure out was where "I" began and the organization ended. I didn't know if I was "me" because of the religion or because of my personality, environment, temperment, etc. Naturally, all those things contribute to who I am, but, there's a continuity essence of who I am outside of the JW box.

  With patience and time and making new connections and giving/taking support in venues like this (like the mirroring validation from others on this DB) I started learning who I was without the JW culture. I also had to do that with the concept of "Jehovah" and the organization. When I walked away, it all weirdly seemed bundled up as one entity, which was an interesting revelation and learning for me.

  I'm also reading that book by Janja Lalich mentioned above and it is helping me immensely right now. I have family and a spouse still in, which I don't anticipate changing (they have the right to their own beliefs as do I), but I can work on myself. Keep talking/writing/processing and feeling whatever you need to. It's all real and necessary. And you're in good company.

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  What is the Watchtower Borganization?

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have come to the conclusion that the watchtower organization is this = .

  an anti-christ pyramid big business cult posing as a religion to enable the leaders to obtain money and/or power over the rank and file witnesses.. .

  my conclusions are based on a whole range of things including:.

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  An Anti-Christ pyramid big business cult posing as a religion to enable the leaders to obtain money and/or power over the rank and file witnesses.

  It's a mind control and population control experiment which quickly turned into a money-making machine... the machine, though, is starting to overheat...

  Is it a front organization for another organization? Give me some breadcrumbs to go on... please!

  ::cue xfiles music::
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  Our Stories and Why They Matter

  by Farkel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  stories are perhaps the most important thing we can contribute to others in our short life on planet earth.. mind you, i am not saying that stories are the most important things in our lives, because they are not.

  the most important things in our lives are experiences, which are moment-by-moment things.

  the best we can do with our own experiences is to tell stories about them, which will never convey the actual living of them.

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  I love this thread, Farkel. Our stories do matter. We help one another in so many ways through our sharing. Thank you for reminding us of this.

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  The struggle to avoid being bitter

  by crazycate in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i dont want to be bitter.

  but i now understand why some or many ex-jws are bitter.

  i remember when i was an active zealous jw thinking, if someone wants to leave, go ahead and leave.

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  crazycate, bitterness is a common part of the process. Feel what you have to feel for all of its appropriateness to your situation. Eventually a time will come when you can choose whether you will actively spend your potent energy on bitterness or if you will just experience residual layers. There's a huge difference. You get to decide how things go now.

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  so oompa got df'd this week...

  by oompa in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  no call to invite me to a committee meeting...no notification of deciding i should be df'd....no telling my jw wife of the announcement...not a chance to appeal what i did not even know what was going on...my mini-serve son is devasted....he even researched it....told me to go to page 153-154 of the od book...never heard of it but it is a green hardback given to all who are to be baptized.

  wow...the elders broke every rule in this book as to my case.... i have no respect for these men that can take away your jw family without even telling you they are going to.

  my jw son has now begged me to meet with my committee...even though there is prob zero chance they can reverse the decision...that chance is from when they let you know...and you have to appeal by letter within 7 days (i cant make this stuff up!!

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  Oompa,

  What a horrible accident. This story is unbelievable. Please mend well.

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  Hello. I have made myself a footnote.

  by NewChapter in

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  2. friends

  first time poster.

  i guess this makes me the scary a word.

  arent apostates jealous?

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  NewChapter,

  I for one, appreciate your flowery writing. :)

  You have a wonderful sense of yourself.

  Welcome to here, being, where you are now in this moment.

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  Comparing this message board with other ex-cult member boards

  by JimmyPage in

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  2. friends

  from an ex-mormon board: (sound familiar?).

  i have been a member all my life.

  i am 32 years old.

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  You might be interested in this...I wrote it with the assistance of ex-Mormons on a forum.

  A Comparison: Ex-Mormons and Ex-Jehovah's Witnesses
  A chart comparing ex-Jehovah's Witnesses with ex-Mormons.
  

  Download: FREE

  @ Rebel8: How very cool. You have some other books there that look worthwhile. I must investigate....

  curious class