Old: Born-in
New: Reborn
at one time most of us here identified as jws who follow the wbts gb/fds who claim to follow the bible etc.
some of us are journeying to a new identity, others may feel they already have a new identity.. although we likely have gone in many different directions, we share a common past which only ex-members can really understand and explain.
please could we each respectfully share and celebrate our unique perspectives of where we have come from, and where we each are now at on this journey?.
Old: Born-in
New: Reborn
2,800,000 according to lambert dolphin (physicist, theologin.
and senior creationist).
he base that figure that adam lived.
Estimated world population at the death of Adam
-1
what saying made it all around the country?.
the ones that were passed around, word of mouth.. for example.
"donations basis proves jehovah is behind the work!".
"Are you in the truth, or is the truth in you?"
"Please only save seats for your immediate family and those who may be riding with you in your car."
alias
so i've been in the borg for 20 years.
and in two months i hit 21. i am technically still in and my parents don't know about me yet.
so i plan on celebrating my bday with just a few friends from high school.
P.S. HAPPY 21 BIRTHDAY! (With a cake below for each year you missed!)
x 20
so i've been in the borg for 20 years.
and in two months i hit 21. i am technically still in and my parents don't know about me yet.
so i plan on celebrating my bday with just a few friends from high school.
How did you feel upon celebrating your first birthday?
I was 29 and it was the best birthday ever!
I was attending college courses at the time and decided to make it MY day and bought a couple bags of mini-cholate bars and gave them away to all my classmates and teachers telling them it was MY BIRTHDAY!!!!
I must have heard "Happy Birthday" a hundred times accompanied by smiles, and each time it gave me a little burst of joy that helped fill in the birthday-less VOID of the first three decades of my life. (Yeah, I was just like a little kid and had so much fun that day).
Then at my part-time job the next day, my co-workers had decorated my cubical with balloons and streamers and we had a "snack" table outside of it all day long.
That one birthday could have been the only one I celebrated in a lifetime and it would have been enough. The liberation and joy I felt at celebrating my existence, my place in this world, on my terms was euphoric.
alias
danny found him there.. something was clearly wrong.. .
sometimes he'd just walk along with me telling me about his wife...".
what happened?".
Ex-JW books appeal to a narrow market, really. The tone of most of them is about as exciting as political debate. Which is to say very narrow in appeal.
Terry,
Many of us heart-centered born-ins are on a healing and ' figuring things out' journey for years after we stop attending meetings, especially when we have strong family tie-ins. Doctrinal issues and other faith-based issues discussed and debated in books are part of the journey out... some of us get beyond that and into feeling okay with not attaching to another particular belief system and into the "I don't know" realm.
Your approach makes it easy for me to keep my mind open, even though I want to be 'fooled by the magician.' I find much of your writing intelligent, thought-provoking, and non-threatening.
There's many layers to the JW experience. All of our stories are important, to ourselves and others, which is why we all share bits and pieces here, for others to hear us, learn from, and have their own experience with. We are in good company when we share our stories with one another, for our own catharsis and, at times, to help others in ways unimaginable.
Whichever experiences you decide to share, if a book isn't feasible (even self-published), please consider setting up a Web site with an intuitive cataloging of your writings. They are so helpful, even if others aren't in full agreement with your perspective. Differing approaches is what keeps the iron sharpened.
alias
at the earliest stages of human history there were magicians, priests and shaman .. they gained special status for mastery in duping and thrilling the human mind offering transcendent experience.. .
(make me believe the impossible!).
magicians were variously called prophets, miracle workers and demi-gods.
Terry,
No fooling, as with many of your posts, this makes fun reading.
Please tell us you're putting together a book or two of your essays into book form to be published.
You are a very good writer and your take on things post-JW is insightful and helpful to others, not just in coming out of the relgion, but in looking at and ahead at life.
Thank you for sharing your writing here. I bet many would enjoy books full.
alias
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[endif]one year ago today, i was 40 weeks pregnant and my husband and i were sitting at home, watching a movie.
We are going to pick up cupcakes from our favorite bakery and let him have his first taste of sugar! It will be a simple, special day for our family. Nothing could ever convince me that it is wrong to celebrate my child’s life and especially the day that he was born.
Yay! Sounds like great fun!
(happy birthday, baby what now? )
alias
i have just finished ray franz "crisis of conscience":.
i agree with him that this "truth" has become like living in a police state, in fear of saying or doing anything that might even retroactively label you a "wicked person".
i was dragged up from the late 60s.
I was the frog in the pot of slowly boiling water brought up in this relgion. Thankfully, I wasn't even born when they marched around with sandwich signs and put their foot in the householder's door. OR when they had week-long assemblies!
alias
just wondering if that book made anyone think about god in the bad light?
it seems to me after thinking about it that it was god who was all in all responsible for jobs suffering.
satan was only the vessel but at the end of the day it was because of god job has been suffering and what is worse it was also him who was feeling sorry and repentat for something that he didn't do?
All of your livestock destroyed?
All of your children killed?
Don't worry, God can make more!
Even if it's meant to be a parable, to make a parent suffer the death of their children is unthinkable. The story would have us think that Job got more than what he lost and lived a long happily ever after life, but what parent would go on to live normally after that? What person wouldn't have PTSD every time a windstorm kicked up?
To love and respect an almightly who "allowed" this test to take place and then allowed an inferior spirt to up the ante the second time around ("Just don't kill 'im") troubles me greatly and contradicts the "God loves us all so much he knows all the hairs on your head" thing. How can I pour my heart and soul out to a being that willfully allows us to suffer just to satisfy the arguments of others?
alias