AOL reminds me of the Watchtower Organization in that once your in, it's impossible to get out. I had to sign up once because I was moving and in between connections, big mistake. It took me five months to finally terminate my account. Plus, there's no real clear number to call, instead you have to search and search for this real small number on the back of the CD carton and then call and face a gauntlet of questions before you can finally terminate your account. Plus, termination must be immediate even though your paid up to the end of the month or otherwise you have to call back at the end of the month and go through the whole process of why you don't want their service anymore? Well, duh, pop ups everywhere and they are way too expensive. For not much more, you can get a DSL connection. AOL sucks but atleast you can quit if persistant unlike other organizations I know.
Atilla
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What's Wrong With AOL Anyway?
by Englishman inyeah!.
c'mon, you computer whizzkids, tell me why you rubbish aol!.
obviously, it's a dumb name to give to the uk sector.
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Did the Circut overseer ever scare you as a kid?
by Singing Man ini will tell you what used to scare me real good was the circuit overseer when he would come to my parents home to stay.
my parents would get real stressed out trying to find just the right food dishs and fix his bed real nice, and fight among them self's because of the stress of it all.
so he always looked like this to me at the young age of six:
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Atilla
Yeah, everyone got real uptight and nervous in our hall when the overseer would come-hey he was just a man. It was always funny, the meeting attendence would always swing up that week for some odd reason and people who worked during the weekend would go out in service on Tuesday Frikin morning. Hell, people would even go out Sunday after meeting. I couldn't imagine having that tough boob job, everything provided for you, all that power, everyone doing everything for you, eating out and traveling around, all expenses paid-hundred dollar handshakes, I tell you-I couldn't do it
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Bethel trip
by dustyb inmy g/f today asked me if i wanted to go to ny and tour bethel and wahkill (sp?
) and all the other buildings today.
should i go, or should we just save our money?
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Atilla
Bethel was the beginning of the end for me as well. I volunteered for 2 weeks at the farm to help on construction/remodeling and what I saw was enough to make me never go back and question why I was a pioneer. Of course, that month I got to count the time at Bethel for volunteering. Funny, I don't remember placing any magazines but what really sucked was that for the whole 2 weeks, I could only count like 50 hours. I still had to get another 20 hours in that month, plus make up for the fact that I didn't make any money for 2 weeks and also for the cost of driving up there to Walkhill. The whole time I was there I felt very uncomfortable and like I was always watching everything I did from how I dressed to what I said. Plus, the hours really sucked, waking up 6 in the morning was not fun, going to breakfast to eat, but I could hardly eat because of all that "spiritual food." Then you had to work over 8 hours and then I went to some local hall in the evening that took an hour to get to meaning that I didn't get home to like 11 at night only to do the same thing the next day. No time to think really with that kind of schedule. Mostly everyone I ran into seemed kind of fake or too preoccupied with how they would pay for gas or luxuries like clothes. I was planning to hand in my full time application when I was there but this 2 week experience so turned me off that by the next year I was no longer pioneering and after that no longer going to meetings. I did meet some sincere people when I was there including my other 2 week volunteer roomate who was from Oregon and a young kid around my age who was originally from Maine. This kid, who worked in the automotive section at Walkhill was the most revealing about how life went down at Walkhill and in some cases just how pathetic it was to live there. Looking for something to do on the weekend: me, my volunteer roomate, and the bethelite kid decided to drive to NYC to go to Little China to pick up a car stereo for his really old VW Golf that was like two colors but had huge speakers in the back. By the way, he was always getting in trouble for playing his car radio too loud or getting speeding tickets. The kid basically had no money but did manage to get some from his family, and friends in his local hall in upstate New York. Odds are that if you live near Walkhill or relatively close, your hall will have some Bethelites attending and from what I heard, those members in the hall would often try to help out those Bethelites either financially or in some other means. Another Bethelite in my work crew who was a little older got an old Chrysler MiniVan from someone in his hall. Anyways, this kid from Maine who was a Bethelite said he had enough. He was moving out-no future he said. He was always being harassed by the powers that be, he had no social life-he had a girl friend but it was almost impossible to see her and of course he had no money. He told me that his roomate was a real tool-i.e.-complete Bethel Nerd. His roomate, who was his age and mine, around 20, but would call it a night around 8 on non-meeting nights and before that would spend his time reading the Bible and other publications methodically along with religiously listening to the kingdom melodies. Fun indeed. The kid from Maine also told me that he was behind in his Bible reading and was sort of in trouble for it-had to go to some special meeting(the first year at Bethel you have to read the whole Bible among other things)-I don't know why he just didn't say, "yeah, I did my reading"-who would know-God?, the governing body? The whole experience was a complete nightmare-and of course I never did hand in that full time application, thank goodness. Instead, after the two week stint, I took a mini road trip up to Boston and then back home to think about the whole affair.
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Atilla
Shasta, brings back those old memories of all those lovely conventions
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I'm in!
by seattleniceguy injust got word: i'm back in the saddle at ms!
woo hoo!
*moonwalks around his living room*.
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Atilla
Hey, now that your back, can you help me with my wireless home networking? I just got the microsoft MN 500 wireless router and the thing is crap. I was on the phone for over an hour with some guy from India who had no more advice than someone working at Circuit City, plus I couldn't understand anything he was saying. My DSL provider Verizon isn't much better and they said they only officially support LINKSY. I guess I will buy the LINKSY router but unfortunately it is more expensive. You have to pay to play though. Even then, the prospect of setting up my network scares me.
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Anti-JW billboard in front of assembly hall would be great
by Atilla inmy brother and i were talking about how great it would be to put up a billboard on the major highway where our local assembly hall is located.
the billboard would be simple and maybe look like this:.
for the truth about the troof.
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Atilla
My brother and I were talking about how great it would be to put up a billboard on the major highway where our local assembly hall is located. The billboard would be simple and maybe look like this:
For The Truth About The Troof
http://quotes.jehovahswitnesses.com
Alas, to rent a billboard is very expensive, about $12000, maybe one day when I graduate from college. Just think of all the people I could help with this simple billboard.
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Follow up on our Baptism Nullification letter
by joe_from_kokomo indear friends:.
some of you have pm'd me while i was away from this site, wanting to know how everything worked out after sending in our baptism nullification letters to the local kh and the society.
(search on baptism nullification to find these postings if you want the details, even a sample of the letter we used).. well, in a word: great.
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Atilla
I'm surpised that it did work. I told my parents that I was going to write one and they freaked out saying that it would be on thier conscience if they continued to associate with me. They practically begged me not to write one. That was over a month ago, and they do seem a little more distant now. I'm still debating on wether to write one or not. I called bethel twice to verify if they would acknowledge the letter but on both times they said that nullification was impossible. I told them that I was baptized before my 18th birthday thus meaning I can't be tied to a binding contract. Their reply was that they follow the Bible and according to "thier interruptation" I can enter into a contract with God before I turn 18. It's all circular reasoning to them. I imagine they don't leave the same guy on the help line at Brooklyn for too long, less he start to question himself.
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All the JWD Maps in one place (except the UK)
by Lady Lee inwell i have redone the maps.
it was helpful to have them separated before while i was trying to make them all.
but now i think it is easier to have them separated.. ballistic has done an amazing job with the map of the uk you can find it at.
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Atilla
I thought this thread was about territory maps.
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The Biggest Scandal In Your Congregation
by Hunyadi ini attended a notorious congregation as a child, the infamous winter gardens congregation!
my cousin and his best friend, both named joe, were elders, my cousin was the po and the other joe was a total loser suck up who wanted to be just like my cousin, joe.
what was even funnier, as i get off point a bit, is that "suck up" joe's wife, cathy, did everything she could do to get her pudgy lil self to dress, look, walk, and talk like my cousin joe's wife, clementine.
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Atilla
My congregation was fairly small and rural so everyone immediately knew anything that happened. I would go see an R movie and bam the next week I would hear about it, then I got smart and stopped taking my other dub friends with me. Even though our congregation had problems, we were apparently pretty attractive to other dub families who would travel 45 minutes or longer to go to our hall because their former hall was so messed up. Of course, they didn't know about our own little child abuse cover up that totally destroyed a family. Making matters worse, the matter was never reported to the police because the molestor was a bible study of a high ranking elder. The ironic part is that the molested JW family was split up with the mother leaving the family and the father remarried to another dub. The boys that were molested were pretty screwed up with the one attempting suicide and the other one being mentally stuck at age 12, that's when he was molested. Although, I think the molestor and his family still come to the meetings. Of course, there was lots of regular sex scandals, too bad none of them were mine. Other than that, I guess everything was perfect!
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was your "talent" wasted in JW-ville?
by doodle-v inawhile ago when i heard that prince had joined the borg immeadiately i thought "man, what a waste of talent" and yes i do think that musically prince is very talented.
anyway, it got me thinking about how many of us wasted our time, money and effort in jw-ville.
an actor or actress, a singer, a famous writer?
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Atilla
Yes, even as a pioneer, my talent and time were very much wasted. When I was pioneering, I at least tried to manage my time and bring new recruits in like a good little dub. However, none of the other pioneers seemed to be organized at all. They just wanted to drive around from one end of the territory to the other end to call on people we knew weren't even home in the first place. My talent is now going to a good cause: going to college and becoming a teacher. The borg puts obedience way in front of talent. Just do as you are told.