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  Garden of Eden

  by Onager in

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  where is the garden of eden?.

  i don't mean where in the world, i mean where in history.

  adam and eve get booted out of this place.

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  dothemath

  There's lots of mythical elements to the Eden story. Would Adam have had a sword, or known what a sword was? How long would it take to name all the animals, especially ones found on other continents?

  Virtually every JW book ever published contains the argument that "if only Adam and Eve had passed the test, we would all be perfect". Really? Do you think every single human from then on would be faithful forever? (Even angels didn't all remain on God's side)

  Not to mention the timeline, 6000 years? There's so much evidence of humans predating that year by a huge margin.

  The reasoning is that the Flood wiped out Eden, but I better not get started on that.
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  Do You Remember When JWs Relished Explaining Their Beliefs?

  by minimus in

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  i bet most witnesses could not explain their blood policy, their understanding of the slave, and even simple biblical doctrines....they are an embarrassment to any old timer..

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  dothemath

  Witnesses used to think they knew everything about the Bible(I guess I did too). But I think they've become more humble now, or if they haven't they should be.

  I recall going in service and often getting into long discussions with people, but that never happens today. Very few now could "prove" much from the bible.

  To me the new format of meetings is totally dull, how hard is it to read part of a chapter of a book?

  There's quite a few that don't even do any parts at all, and I'm glad to be one of them.
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  Looking for a bit of advice in a difficult situation

  by Oversteer in

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  2. friends

  i'm looking for a bit of guidance here and not really sure where to turn.

  maybe someone has been in a similar situation and can help me out.. currently i'm an awake, baptized jw.

  have been for a few years.

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  dothemath

  Can't imagine going through all of that, hope you don't get black-listed for just trying to do the right thing.

  Its very clear to me you are the one acting in the most "Christian" manner.
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  My funniest stand up JW Jokes so far

  by usualusername1 in

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  2. friends

  in the last couple of months, i have been practising my stand up.

  so far these are my best jokes:.

  not celebrating birthdays and christmas has saved me so much money.

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  dothemath

  I think even hard-core jws would find those hilarious!
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  Potential Muslim convert

  by StopTheTears in

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  2. friends

  about a month ago, i purchased arabic/english gospels of john that contain a commentary for muslims.. .

  i went to one of my neighbors and spoke to him and gave him one.

  fast forward to today, my brakes need done so i took my car to the shop, walking back into my street i saw my friend abdullah outside.. .

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  dothemath

  Simon says..........

  great to see you put the hammer down Simon!
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  We are STRONG, NOT Weak!!!

  by Divergent in

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  today's text:.

  thursday, october 20. assist those who are weak.—acts 20:35.. you may know from personal experience that it can take time to recover from a debilitating physical illness.

  similarly, a christian who has been weakened by personal difficulties or very trying circumstances may need time to regain spiritual strength.

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  dothemath

  Divergent....you could be a motivational speaker!
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  New, but needed to vent- thank you :-)

  by Danni Jackson in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i discovered your website this morning as i was trying to find some information about 'marking'.

  you see a very close friend of mine was 'marked' earlier this week and as i know the ins and outs of the situation (as we are close friends) i disregarded the talk immediately as i know my friend is obviously having issues but is no way a 'danger' to anybody else's spiritual health.

  basically they are dating a non-believer- hence the talk.

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  dothemath

  Most of us here have lots of experiences from our congregations with modern-day

  "Pharisees". You are going to run into this numerous times the longer you're a witness.

  You should probably ask yourself "what would Jesus do?" when this happens, but you're likely to become "marked" yourself.
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  CO visit... Circuit is not growing at all, he said during midweek meeting

  by StarTrekAngel in

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  2. beliefs

  so that was a "shocker".

  i was not able to attend the meeting.

  i had a more important one with my other apostate friends in the area.

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  Anybody ever see that movie "Last of the Mohicans"? It's probably a long ways off but I think the "hand-writing is on the wall" for witnesses.
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  Hello - New Member

  by NotAnointed in

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  i just wanted to intoroduce myself.

  i have been lurking for some time and finally decided to register and hopefully contribute to this great forum.. i am in my mid 30s and have never been in the truth.

  my wife became a jw several years ago and since she is a (mostly) stay at home mom my two boys are also jws.

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  dothemath

  Welcome to the forum, and I'm pleased to hear from the perspective of someone who still has faith in God. I think most here have had such negative influences from the Org, that we've mostly turned our backs on all Christianity.

  I personally find it impossible to believe the whole Genesis account, so I guess I'm an agnostic?

  I'm sure you will benefit from all the insight of JW's you will get here to maybe help in dealing with your family.
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  Hello

  by UnshackleTheChains in

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  2. friends

  i decided to join this forum as have been lurking awhile.

  there are lots of interesting topics on here that appeal to me.. i have been a witness for almost 3 decades and am very disillusioned with the organisation at this time.

  i am beginning to see it in a new light as i am getting older.

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  dothemath

  Hello and welcome! It's great to come here and be able to at least question a belief, or have even a slight criticism about the org without getting d'fd for it.

  One thing that used to make this religion seem above others was that there was no emphasis on money all the time, but that has certainly changed now.

  I look forward to reading more of your posts.