cor and there's me leaving my job in southampton to avoid the bethelites only to find they ain't going there after all !
e.man - am i damned for living in pompey and working with scummers ?
before you ask , i am not that peter ellis.. the official line is.
the land at bittacy hill and the ridgeway is valued at 69 million.
the estimate at moving to milton keynes was 250 million.
cor and there's me leaving my job in southampton to avoid the bethelites only to find they ain't going there after all !
e.man - am i damned for living in pompey and working with scummers ?
what a performance ... especially the bit where she 'choked the tears back' talking about her son.
remember what her father was?
an actor.
Simon! Tell me you're not a tory ! ! ! ! !
never was a jw, and am fascinated by the demon stories .
can anyone verify that demons are currently/today talked about??
i guess they just sound dated, perhaps from growing up years, say 20 years ago?
isn't this one of the classic signs of a psychotic illness - another being that you communicate directly with God ?
sigh ... why oh why did we ever believe the GB huh ?
'when you lose small mind you free your life' (system of a down)
someone please show me where the watchtower society has stated, in cases of serious sin, the rule that requires "two witnesse" to the event or act!
at best, one or two witnesses are preferred!
period ... but if there are no witnesses, then other evidence can be presented to witnesses or the elders.
oh - I had another point on:
Deuteronomy 22:27 For he found her in the field, [and] the betrothed damsel cried, and [there was] none to save her.
I do not believe that this scripture was requiring the woman to scream, but purely that the language illustrates this was done against her will.
someone please show me where the watchtower society has stated, in cases of serious sin, the rule that requires "two witnesse" to the event or act!
at best, one or two witnesses are preferred!
period ... but if there are no witnesses, then other evidence can be presented to witnesses or the elders.
Deuteronomy 22:25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die:
Deuteronomy 22:26 But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; [there is] in the damsel no sin [worthy] of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so [is] this matter:
Deuteronomy 22:27 For he found her in the field, [and] the betrothed damsel cried, and [there was] none to save her.
This scripture and law from God clearly didn't require any witness other than the wronged one. Surely this makes a complete liar of the Borganisation which requires two witnesses for rape, incest and child abuse.
Even so, the second witness is frequently present from forensics and still there are accounts of JW Elders denying those two witnesses (ie. the abused one and the forensic evidence) and standing alongside the one who should be condemned.
in a congregation some years ago, the elders had a major issue to deal with.
a transexxual woman became interested in studying the bible with the witnesses.
she was invited to go to the meetings.
yeah, the irony is that the bigots saved that person from a life of control and ignorance
as with all things watchtower, people are secondary - the wt would say secondary to God, but we know it's secondary to their current infantile interpretations
'when you lose small mind you free your life' (system of a down)
mirosoft has issued a new virus warning.
this virus is called the jw 101 virus.
it is very tricky and something you need to take extreme caution to make sure it does not infect your computer system.
hee ... cool piece of writing ... so glad to have finally got rid of that particular piece of trojan spyware ...
the september 15th watchtower says: "seeds of doubt can be sown by the media, through the internet,and by modern--day apostates.
" please explain.
I think we are 'Watchtower Apostates' - they themselves are the Modern-Day Apostates
i came home today to find my wife with some ladies from the church - they were having a meeting about going door-to-door and handing out leaflets inviting people to come to church.
they asked me if i could print out a leaflet that they could photocopy.
this was my contribution:.
ok ... can cope with the 'bastards', can cope with the finger, can cope with the beard and even cope with the fearsome face , but those glasses ? ... gotta be 1980s - is there a polyester suit to go with them ??
hi everybody... i stumbled across this site in my travels and thought i'd say hi.
as mentioned in the subject my name is darren and i'm from melbourne australia.
i was born into the witnesses, the perfect little jw child.
howdy darren
your comments "happier now than I have ever been, my conscience is clean and I'm already enjoying my life outside the control of the organisation" pretty much sums up how i feel too
welcome to the real life :))
"when you lose small mind you free your life" (system of a down)