i am saving it for the kingdom !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
how many of these types have counseled others for 'having kids, buying houses, being concerned w/ work, you have to pioneer, blah, blah, blah---and!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
only to turn around and --- lo and behold--they are----having kids-----buying houses-------bragging about the money they make-----buying new cars ( did i mention bragging )???
Yes, have some relatives who never bought a home or any of the other things you mention, but they sure spend a lot of time traveling...doesn't that cost money too? I guess they would find some way to justify it though. It's all a matter of priorities.
Agnes
hey guys, .
just wanted to take the time to give my 2 cents here.
for 10 years, i've neglegted my family.
Confurscious, your post was so good to read. So glad that you had a great time.I guess all of us have played second fiddle to that blasted organization. Such love!
Agnes
i understand that jw's aren't supposed to associate with worldy types, but they can do business with them right?
just seems sort of contradictory.
"i can't associate with you but i can take your dirty money and will pretend to like you to get it".
Thanks for all the responses.
Scully, thanks for the welcome too.
I thought there must be a loop hole to justify the illogical behavior. I know some JW's that will not give you a second look until they have something to sell you. I will not contribute my hard earned money to such a person be it charity or otherwise. Yes and I have seen some active JW's even welcome smokers and people with the American flag decals on their cars into their homes as long as they're giving them money. We have some in the neighborhood who borrow constantly from the "dirty worldly types", that is apparently acceptable too.
Yes, you will probably do the right thing because that is what is good and natural. Their bad behavior is not natural. We have some relatives that are having some financial difficulty and health issues, it will be intersting to see how much support they get from their "Brothers & Sisters"! I agree with you, some do seem to have a sense of entitlement.
Ohio cowboy: I won't be buying any of them presents for special occasions any time soon!
Kls: I guess it would be hard to not accept money from "worldly" people if you have a business where "worldly" people are coming to you, but to purposely "love bomb" us in pursuit of our money is in my opinion tacky and it pisses me off too. I'm a "dirty worldly" person and I even have that much conviction and principles! On a few occasions when I was generous with a few of them, they were almost in disbelief that one of us could possibly be so kind and generous as they only view themselves.
Gopher: Those are the very reasons I will purposely not give to them, other than relatives. It usually goes against my generous nature, but this really irks me. Reminds me of a stingy child that just takes and never shares.
Corvin & Talesin: That is unbeleivable!
i understand that jw's aren't supposed to associate with worldy types, but they can do business with them right?
just seems sort of contradictory.
"i can't associate with you but i can take your dirty money and will pretend to like you to get it".
I understand that JW's aren't supposed to associate with worldy types, but they can do business with them right? Just seems sort of contradictory. "I can't associate with you but I can take your dirty money and will pretend to like you to get it".
Agnes
today our postal carriers are having a food drive.. i was showing my hubby the things i rounded up and asked about giving something else...he said...no...i said: "well, why shouldn't we, we have plenty"..he then said "sure".. we then had a discussion about if jw's ever give on such occasions for food drives.
i for one, did not, and i am ashamed to say that too.. so, did you give to food drives when you were a jw?.
codeblue
Stephanus, you donate canned non-perishable food and put it in a bag by your mail box on the designated day and your postman picks the bags up when they deliver your mail.
Agnes
well as you would have guessed from my name, i am a proud witness and i feel obliged to preach to you about the promises that our wonderful creator, jehovah god, has promised each and every one of us, of any race or background.
i know that you already know what he has told us through his word, but i am curious to wonder why you have chosen to jump off the narrow road which leads to everlasting life.
is it because you have had a bad experience in god's organization?
Blah, Blah, Blah! How robotic!
last year, as many of you know, my dad committed suicide.
a couple of months after his death, i was in our local petsmart and started talking to a really cool dog trainer.
he was bright, loved animals, and had one of his dogs with him (who obviously adored him and did everything he asked).
I loved your story and can only imagine what it must have meant to her. So glad you didn't just think about it too long and changed your mind about writing it. I'm sure she will always remember your kindness.
Agnes
i'm fairly new here and don't post often, but enjoy reading your posts.
thank you all for sharing your life experiences.
my husband, children and i are not j.w.
"Since you mentioned that you already say grace yourselves on occasion, and since a the best defense is a good offense, tell them you say grace before they mention anything about their prayers."
Ascot: I like this idea of not allowing them to try and take control, but my husband is concerned that it could backfire and open the door to discussing religion.
Xjw: Hope your'e right about this. It would be nice to just have a great visit.
Agnes
i'm fairly new here and don't post often, but enjoy reading your posts.
thank you all for sharing your life experiences.
my husband, children and i are not j.w.
Thank you all for your responses and the great advice. You all are such fine people and are always so willing to offer support and I feel better just having asked for it.
The relatives that will be visiting for the week are two of my husbands siblings and their spouses, and a friend that we have never met. We did invite them to visit since we knew they were going to be close by and we do want to see them. Guess we are a little curious as to what this visit will bring.
Elsewhere, Maya, Valis, you made me laugh, but I think I'll have to pass on that squirt bottle and wooden cross, and the widescreen TV idea too. Might change my mind before the week is up.
Maya, I need to remember your advice to shut them down immediately. I think you're right.
Valis, I like your idea about not giving them a platform to preach on. Guess I'll have to keep my complaining about government, etc to myself. Don't care if they pray before a meal (we sometimes say Grace), and have no problem turning down their invtiation to attend a meeting. I must admit, I wouldn't find it as easy to decline an offer to say a prayer with them, but I will! Thanks for welcoming me.
Maya & Willyloman, I will remember your advice "We respect your beliefs, but while you're in my home, you must respect ours."
Country Girl, we're not intimidated, really. It's just that there always seems to be a new tactic to try and sway us into letting them have control.
Calamity Jane, my husband already suggested retaliating with politics. I'll bet that would work!
95, you are absolutely right, they know we aren't interested already and I don't mind telling them again. We have always been honest about this, so it wouldn't be a surprise.
Somebody, I'll try to be as polite as your suggestion. Thanks
Garybuss, you sound like my husband "Interesting!" Hope you're right about them not bringing it all up, that would be a surprise!
Sassy, I'm aware of this tactic, but impressing us with what wonderful folks they are hasn't worked for them so far! he he
Mulan, I have read so many of your posts and you always give such wonderful insight and advice. Thank you again.
Don't know if you realize how powerful your advice and support is. Now I feel like I can handle any situation that comes up. Thanks again!
i'm fairly new here and don't post often, but enjoy reading your posts.
thank you all for sharing your life experiences.
my husband, children and i are not j.w.
Hello everyone. I'm fairly new here and don't post often, but enjoy reading your posts. Thank you all for sharing your life experiences.
My husband, children and I are not J.W.'s and never have been, but we do have family that are. We're going to have a house full for about a week and just want your wisdom on how to deal with the inevitable attempts of them broaching the subject of religion. It always comes up and we would like to find a peaceful way of making it very clear that we aren't interested without being too harsh. We want to have a nice visit. Your advice please. Agnes
