Simon, thanks for posting about your experiences leaving the WTS. I found it poignant that you discussed in the last few paragraphs about how easy it is to focus your whole life on being an ex-JW...that is one of the things I am working hard not to do. This religion has already claimed my childhood & family life so I definitely want to put it behind me as soon as possible...but this site has helped me to 1) see all the errors in WTS doctrine & 2) find out why I believed all those teachings so easily. I can honestly say that this site was integral to leaving the WTS and I can't thank you & everyone here for that...
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My life ... and how JWD came to be - Part 4
by Simon inmy life ... and how jwd came to be - part 1 .
my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 2 .
my life ... and how jwd came to be - part 3
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How YOU Humiliate the Watchtower (4/1/04)
by metatron intake a good look at the april 1, '04 watchtower, with its garish 'wild beast' on the cover.. now, wouldn't this be a perfect opportunity to show a picture of the un building being .
destroyed at armageddon?
wouldn't be a good idea to blast the churches of christendom.
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It also is quick
to point out that human governments can serve as "God's minister" , protecting human
rights, "including the right to engage in true worship".
Talk about opening a can o' worms...if governments now in WTS Doctrine can serve as "God's ministers" then why can't you support them through voting? By trying to cover themselves they are just opening up more contradictions...
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Another Reason For Proper Hygiene...
by cypher50 in.
the townspeople might come and subdue you because you smell so rank...
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The townspeople might come and subdue you because you smell so rank...
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A Different Kind Of Troof In England?
by Englishman inmy mum's congregation get's involved in trips to see classical music, she goes dancing sometimes and even enjoys an official congregation organised picnic when the weather is good enough.
the df'ing thing seems to be regarded as an optional choice for the would-be shunner.
everyone there is very sociable and friendly with one another too.
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There are a lot of congregations like the one you just described...it is just unfortunate that it isn't the rule. I grew up in a very close congregation...I remember when my father died they made dinner for us for a week while we prepared his funeral. We did go on actual fun trips (of course, there was a one day visit to Canadian Bethel but I remember the 5 days at Niagara Falls much better) and there were brothers & sisters who were genuinely concerned about me...
When it came down to it though, it was all conditional because they only would act like this toward JWs...
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Family friendly? Bring the kids? OH F*CK, the JWs are destroying one of the best Funk artists ever!!! His style has always been full of innuendo & sexual tension...you remove that and you remove an essential part of his musical essence. This is akin to having Cypress Hill stop speaking about weed....
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Do you ever feel like a member of the XJW cult??
by DIM inwhat i specifically mean, is, sometimes do you feel frustrated that you are bound to xjw things / topics / issues?
once an xjw, always an anti jw type thing?
since leaving the organization in 2002 i've done a pretty good job of moving on, making "worldy" friends, met up w/ some wonderful xjw's (princess and family), and really don't think too much about how much pain jw's have caused me.....but every now and then i find myself compelled to read this board for hours...look up new teachings that make no sense......so in a way i feel forever bound to the xjw world....which i'm not sure is a good thing or a bad thing.
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I do post here a lot and read here a lot...but I don't feel like I just joined another cult. The difference between being a Jehovah's Witness & being here is I have a choice to express my views...I have a choice to leave here and never talk about being a JW without being condemned for making that choice...and my opinions are respected as long as they are researched. That is why I wouldn't call it a cult...
Besides, the fact is that my life is so freaking strange (just from being a JW) that I find that only XJWs actually understand the range of motions & events I am going through. So, I think it is healthy to find out why you rejected the religion, why you didn't agree with its flawed doctrines, why you were willing to undergo the pychological pressure (even psychological torture in some cases) to disagree with & leave the WTS. If you don't & try to push it to the back burner of your mind then it will eventually come back to haunt you in other ways.
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Automatic DA?ing of anyone taking a blood transfusion, now in the U.S!
by cyberguy ini recently talked to a jw ?elder?
friend of mine, who said that they just received a letter (us) from the society, stating that they should ?da?
anyone who takes a blood transfusion.
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To further clarify my original post, the reason why they did this in Europe was because countries such as Bulgaria made an issue of the fact that a Witness could easily come to the scriptural conclusion that blood transfusions are alright and thusly have one without feeling it is a sin. This was part of the reason that Bulgaria refused to classify JW's as a religion (needless destructive doctrines) so the Society basically used legal wording to say that all JWs can exercise their conscious without fear of religious punitive actions. Thus, they use the 'disassociate' term instead of the 'disfellowship' term because 'disassociate' makes it seem that the person in question made the decision to leave themselves...of course, we all know that DA & DF are basically the same but the judicial court systems do not. I came to this understanding from researching the Bulgaria cases at http://www.ajwrb.com.
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Bobdylan.com Forum closed down
by PopeOfEruke init seems the www.bobdylan.com discsussion forum has been closed by the moderator/sony.
speculations such as this are abounding:lot's of things were happening, vile creatures using many usernames, being banned and coming back under more and more usernames... threats were being made, a certain religious freak even threatened to report bobdylan.com/sony to the police for letting so much degraded talk go on, etc... ers, you know how to stay in touch with the people you care about.... and visa versa..... .
so much for running forums eh!!
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But wait ... surely anyone doing moderating has a JW Elder mentality? That's what I heard
Of course Simon...anyone knows that all moderators are power-hungry bastards who have no life and just love to lord over others on a electronic messageboard .
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Bobdylan.com Forum closed down
by PopeOfEruke init seems the www.bobdylan.com discsussion forum has been closed by the moderator/sony.
speculations such as this are abounding:lot's of things were happening, vile creatures using many usernames, being banned and coming back under more and more usernames... threats were being made, a certain religious freak even threatened to report bobdylan.com/sony to the police for letting so much degraded talk go on, etc... ers, you know how to stay in touch with the people you care about.... and visa versa..... .
so much for running forums eh!!
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I never been there before (I like Dylan but not enough to talk about him that much)...was it that bad or did they just not have enough moderators?
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Automatic DA?ing of anyone taking a blood transfusion, now in the U.S!
by cyberguy ini recently talked to a jw ?elder?
friend of mine, who said that they just received a letter (us) from the society, stating that they should ?da?
anyone who takes a blood transfusion.
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From what I have researched, the reason they are doing this is to create a legal loophole by claiming that people who take a blood transfusion have consciously chose to do so and thusly rejected being a Jehovah's Witness. This way, they can say that you aren't punished by them for exercising your conscious (something that is an issue in most court cases when people point out the flaws in their arguments)...