Posts by cypher50

a bunch of us left around the same time, some were df'd, some weren't, one or two went back into the witnesses over the years.. one of the df'd one's became re-instated and last year i had the pleasure of sending him the letter that we sent to every congregation in the uk, the letter that announced that the wt was an ngo and, incidentally, the whole shebang was full of paedophiles and you lot were going to be on telly nexy week in bbc's panorama!

i digress... anyway, one thing quickly became very clear to those of us that were left.

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I'm glad I am not the only one with this problem of feeling socially inept...other people around me find it so easy to start a conversation and I feel like a dumbass if I even open my mouth sometimes. Yea, some people don't bother with anything spiritually thought-provoking (and I am not just talking about Christianity when I say "spiritual") and I don't blame them considering that they are coming out of the WTS doctrines...but it seems like they don't want to let those of us who do believe in a particular religion be. Same goes for those overzealous Christians who post about how people are so wrong for not wanting to pursue Christianity further....some people have valid reasoning & evidence not to and some are just too hurt to trust any religion again. I think that being a Christian should mean that you would be empathetic to someone who has gone through the same type of situation you have...

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I Only Get To Say This Once Every Other Year So....

by cypher50 in

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it is snowing in atlanta, georgia!

i grew up in new york (a few miles from wallkill) and snow is actually something i miss....i used to love sitting back inside a warm house and watching everything turn white.

well, now it is really coming down here; i thought it was just a flurry because of the huge flakes but it has been going on for an hour now.

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IT IS SNOWING IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA! w00t!

I grew up in New York (a few miles from Wallkill) and snow is actually something I miss....I used to love sitting back inside a warm house and watching everything turn white. Well, now it is really coming down here; I thought it was just a flurry because of the huge flakes but it has been going on for an hour now. I know, many of you get the real thing (like 2 feet of it) but for us Southerners here in the States this is a big deal to just see snow .

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What did you miss out on when you was a JW kid?

by dustyb in

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as a person that grew up as a dub, i realize i missed a lot when i was a kid.

i'm sitting here watching mr. rogers on pbs (for those who aren't american, its a kids show like sesame street, which i really wasn't allowed to watch either).

it makes me sad because i've missed out on so much when i was a kid, such as watching mr. rogers.

cypher50

No, you didn't upset me at least Mouthy...I am a realist and I totally understand your point. I haven't had to live in poverty ever in my life and I have always had many luxuries compared to others in the world...

I guess I am angry not necessarily because I missed these things but because I didn't do them based on some false pretenses made up by a religious book company. Plus, I (and the majority of former JW kids) really have a problem socially adapting to the world around us...that is something that just shouldn't of happened but it did. So, I do get angry thinking about these things but you have to keep things in perspective and not get bitter...

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"No, I jumped the counter because the Smurf was talking s--,"

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Heh, so much for JW kids being able to watch reruns of that show....

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What did you miss out on when you was a JW kid?

by dustyb in

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as a person that grew up as a dub, i realize i missed a lot when i was a kid.

i'm sitting here watching mr. rogers on pbs (for those who aren't american, its a kids show like sesame street, which i really wasn't allowed to watch either).

it makes me sad because i've missed out on so much when i was a kid, such as watching mr. rogers.

cypher50

Amazingly enough, I don't think I missed much about being a kid besides the birthdays & holidays. I could watch any show I wanted (we even sneaked in the Smurfs once in awhile), I got toys around Christmas because of my 'unbelieving' father and we had to go to school during the Holiday seasons so I know about most Holidays.

However, I think I really missed out on being a teenager. I really wanted to just be a normal teen (play a sport, have a girlfriend, hang out with my schoolmates) but I couldn't because this was all deemed 'worldly'. I literally was tearing up when senior prom came around because it was one of the few times where I had several really attractive girls ask me to the prom and I looked like a dumbass by saying no because of 'religious reasons'. This is one of the few things I actually get angry about when I think back...I wish that one time I would of just been my own person and done what I felt in my heart was right.

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Would a letter of DA do a DF'ed guy any good?

by czarofmischief in

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besides the visceral satisfaction of sticking it the man that abused me for so many years - would it help to write a letter of disassociation and send copies to the elders, the society, and maybe a lawyer?.

my reasoning is that as a disfellowshipped person, i am regarded as a sinner - someone who was led astray by weakness and sin.

this is true.

cypher50

Most people here would say to just leave it be because if you truly are free of the WTS & its designations then you shouldn't care whether they list you as DF or DA since it is a moot point. However, if it offers closure then I suggest writing the letter...

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United Nations Press Release!!! (???)

by Frannie Banannie in

anyone heard about this un press release???

is this for real?

http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2004/1/emw100794.htm.

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drlove, what is false about the WTS being an NGO for ten years? Being an NGO clearly states that you adhere to all of the United Nations charter & it also means that you agree to assist them with distributing information that supports the United Nations...

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JW Urban Legends 2

by ZeroKool29 in

wow!

thanks for all of your replies to my last topic!

since it was so popular i thought we could use another one.

cypher50

My point to all this is that there ARE other religions that have fanatical tendencies. What I find extremely amusing is that my boss is quick to call the JW's a cult, but can't see the similarities with her church.

When people deal with something close to home then they are usually too defensive to actually see any faults or idiosyncracies. For instance, how many Witnesses have you talked to about flaws in the blood doctrine or about the UN NGO situation? How many didn't believe a word even after showing proof or dismissed what you told them as a small matter? This can even happen outside of religion...consider how many scientists dismiss a new scientific fact just because it flies in the face of previous theories. For instance, in the late 19th century, many thought that diseases such as cholera & malaria were caused by literally 'bad air'...this was called the miasma theory. In fact, the origin of the word 'malaria' is from the Italian phrase of mala aria (bad air)...a few scientists actually knew for most of that century that it wasn't bad air but contaminated water (cholera) & mosquitoes transmitting through bites (malaria) that caused these diseases. However, because the previous miasma theory had much older research it was respected and other theories were ignored (no matter how concisely researched & explained).