toreador

Joined

• started 12 topics
• posted 1,015 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by toreador

• 
  15

  ? about the United Nations and WTS

  by toreador in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does anyone know if a letter from the wts has been sent to the congregations about their being a member of the un as an ngo?

  or has it just been told to the elders and then the rank and file hear about it if they ask the elders?

  i know the wts said it was to get a library card but i need to know if there was actually a public announcement to the congregations about it..

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  toreador

  Thank you all for all the links! I knew about some of the links but added many new ones.

  I have a lot of reading to do.

  thx again,

  Toreador
• 
  14

  Hidden Images In WT Publications

  by Hunyadi in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  first of all, i would like to thank everyone who responded to my first posting regarding the hidden images thing.

  i will admit that, after re-reading my initial post, i sounded like some sort of a paranoid alarmist, and i really did deserve the flack i received from some of you folks.. let me just say that there probably isn't a single x-jw who doesn't feel as though they have been duped to some degree with regard to the so-called "bible truth" they received while serving the organization.

  many x-jws firmly use the terms "manipulation", "fear", "deception", and even more .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  toreador

  These illustrations stretch over several years,and you really believe that all this time those "funny" guys at the art department are/were getting away with having their fun without being called to order?This in such a heavily controlled environment like the WTS? Yeah I reckon a few slip by and some are just like I said, an accident. Some are of course on purpose but some are just the mind trying to find faces that aren't really there.
• 
  15

  ? about the United Nations and WTS

  by toreador in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does anyone know if a letter from the wts has been sent to the congregations about their being a member of the un as an ngo?

  or has it just been told to the elders and then the rank and file hear about it if they ask the elders?

  i know the wts said it was to get a library card but i need to know if there was actually a public announcement to the congregations about it..

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  toreador

  Thank you Imallgrowedup and all of you very much for responding! It was exactly what I needed to know. I wasn't sure if they had made an announcement or if it was all on a need to know or want to know basis. I thought maybe the WTS would want to come up with an answer and present it to the cong before the sh*t hit the fan so to speak. But I guess they haven't done so as of yet.

  What really amazes me is to WHY they thought they could get away with it in the first place. Dont they think things through? Surely they must have thought that the info would get out sooner or later.

  Was the WTS always listed on the UN's website or was that a new thing to post the NGO members?
• 
  15

  ? about the United Nations and WTS

  by toreador in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does anyone know if a letter from the wts has been sent to the congregations about their being a member of the un as an ngo?

  or has it just been told to the elders and then the rank and file hear about it if they ask the elders?

  i know the wts said it was to get a library card but i need to know if there was actually a public announcement to the congregations about it..

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  toreador

  Does anyone know if a letter from the WTS has been sent to the congregations about their being a member of the UN as an NGO? Or has it just been told to the elders and then the rank and file hear about it if they ask the elders?

  I know the WTS said it was to get a library card but I need to know if there was actually a public announcement to the congregations about it.
• 
  25

  NEWS FLASH!!! Noah's Ark Found!

  by Jim_TX in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i saw it on the enquirer at the grocery store today - so it's gotta be true!.

  they found it in irag - it was hidden by saddam 20 feet below ground for many years.

  now they have found it!.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  toreador

  Here I thought you were serious.

  LMAO at Imallgrowedup! Thats a keeper.
• 
  270

  Return To God, and He WIll Forgive You in a Large Way!

  by AwakenedAndFree in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  did you leave the watchtower society and the true god ,too?.

  i believe that god still helps some of the of the ones still "traped" in the org.

  - god helped me greatly while i was still in.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  toreador

  Yeah, one helluva contradiction. There doesn't seem to be any rationale behind it at all. Please tell us AAF. Maybe there is something we are missing. I guess it wouldn't be the first time.
• 
  14

  Hidden Images In WT Publications

  by Hunyadi in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  first of all, i would like to thank everyone who responded to my first posting regarding the hidden images thing.

  i will admit that, after re-reading my initial post, i sounded like some sort of a paranoid alarmist, and i really did deserve the flack i received from some of you folks.. let me just say that there probably isn't a single x-jw who doesn't feel as though they have been duped to some degree with regard to the so-called "bible truth" they received while serving the organization.

  many x-jws firmly use the terms "manipulation", "fear", "deception", and even more .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  toreador

  I agree with many of the other posters here who stated there are far more damning topics on which to expose the WTS for what they are than to try to extrapolate something sinister out of the illustrations other than someone just trying to amuse themselves in the art department. I would imagine after working in the art department at bethel for a few years one would try to find something/anything to amuse themselves.
• 
  270

  Return To God, and He WIll Forgive You in a Large Way!

  by AwakenedAndFree in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  did you leave the watchtower society and the true god ,too?.

  i believe that god still helps some of the of the ones still "traped" in the org.

  - god helped me greatly while i was still in.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  toreador

  Some people will believe anything for no other reason than "because they want too". Accepting reality would be just TOO painful to bear.

  My JW relatives are a prime example.
• 
  8

  Just for chuckles...years 365 or 360

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don't want to begin another innane debate about what the 7 times/years passage in daniel 'meant'.

  my point is a simple one, according to the wt the key to the "prophecy" involves deciferring the length of a year/time as 360 days long.

  then assign a year for each day.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  toreador

  1878 was once believed to be when the resurrection of the annointed started taking place. It was believed that when Russel died on 1916 he was directing the work from heaven. Now it is believed that the resurrection did not commence until sometime in 1919 for the little flock.

  Kind of makes you go hmmmm........ doesn't it?
• 
  14

  Hidden Images In WT Publications

  by Hunyadi in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  first of all, i would like to thank everyone who responded to my first posting regarding the hidden images thing.

  i will admit that, after re-reading my initial post, i sounded like some sort of a paranoid alarmist, and i really did deserve the flack i received from some of you folks.. let me just say that there probably isn't a single x-jw who doesn't feel as though they have been duped to some degree with regard to the so-called "bible truth" they received while serving the organization.

  many x-jws firmly use the terms "manipulation", "fear", "deception", and even more .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  toreador

  A couple of the images are probably on purpose but the rest are speculation.