Hunyadi
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I need a scan of the April Watchtower
by archangel01 inhi all, i need a scan of the front cover the april watchtower.
it has a picture of the wild beast on it.
i need it so i can give it to this christian journal an will publish it with a big story on the jw's an what fakes they are.
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Question on the generation teaching
by expatbrit inwe all know about the wt's dramatic about face in 1995 on the generation thing.
it was a large nail in their coffin, as far as i was concerned.
after all, surely a verse so important, so relevant to our modern times would have been studied intensively at bethel.
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Hunyadi
wt 11/1/95 pages 16-21
6 Not only must we pay attention to the inspired prophecies concerning these final days of a wicked system but we must anchor our faith primarily on the precious sacrifice of Christ Jesus and God?s marvelous promises based thereon. (Hebrews 6:17-19; 9:14; 1 Peter 1:18, 19; 2 Peter 1:16-19) Eager to see the end of this evil system, Jehovah?s people have at times speculated about the time when the "great tribulation" would break out, even tying this to calculations of what is the lifetime of a generation since 1914. However, we "bring a heart of wisdom in," not by speculating about how many years or days make up a generation, but by thinking about how we "count our days" in bringing joyful praise to Jehovah. (Psalm 90:12) Rather than provide a rule for measuring time, the term "generation" as used by Jesus refers principally to contemporary people of a certain historical period, with their identifying characteristics.
This was the backdoor for the predictions made for the end.
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Letter to all congregations Feb 18, 2004
by Puternut into all congregations of jehovah's witnesses feb 18, 2004. .
re: important changes and announcements.
dear brothers,.
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Hunyadi
A humble and sincere apology from the WTBTS would be just the thing. Here is what the WTBTS says about apologies:
wt 12/15/96 ยท Why should we practice the art of apologizing? An apology can help to ease the pain caused by imperfection, and it can heal strained relationships. Each apology we make is a lesson in humility and trains us to become more sensitive to the feelings of others.?9/15, page 24.
wt 7/15/96 pg 15-20 11 Bridling the tongue helps us to maintain unity. (James 3:10-18) But suppose something we have said has caused tension between us and a fellow Christian. Would it not be appropriate to take the initiative in making peace with our brother, apologizing if necessary? (Matthew 5:23, 24) True, this requires humility, or lowliness of mind, but Peter wrote: "Gird yourselves with lowliness of mind toward one another, because God opposes the haughty ones, but he gives undeserved kindness to the humble ones." (1 Peter 5:5) Humility will move us to ?pursue peace? with our brothers, admitting our mistakes and making appropriate apology. This helps to maintain the unity of Jehovah?s family.?1 Peter 3:10, 11
wt9/15/96 pg 22-24
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the Art of ApologizingIf we make it a practice to apologize when necessary, we are likely to find that people will respond favorably. And perhaps they will even apologize themselves. When we suspect that we have upset someone, why not make it a custom to apologize rather than go to great lengths to avoid admitting any fault? The world may feel that an apology is a sign of weakness, but it really gives evidence of Christian maturity. Of course, we would not want to be like those who acknowledge some wrong yet minimize their responsibility. For instance, do we ever say that we are sorry without meaning it? If we arrive late and make profuse apologies, do we determine to improve our punctuality?
So, then, do we really need to apologize? Yes, we do. We owe it to ourselves and others to do so. An apology can help to ease the pain caused by imperfection, and it can heal strained relationships. Each apology we make is a lesson in humility and trains us to become more sensitive to the feelings of others. As a result, fellow believers, marriage mates, and others will view us as those who deserve their affection and trust. We will have peace of mind, and Jehovah God will bless us.
Well, GB and WTBTS, we are all waiting for you to walk your talk and humbly admit your transgressions. Heal the strained relationships between you and those you have caused to fall away. Show us your humility. Show us that you deserve our affection and trust. Or will you continue to lie and minimize your responsibility?
CORVIIN
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xJWs: Anyone ever read this poem? Any thoughts? Any personal applications?
by True North inanyone ever read this poem: http://www.artofeurope.com/larkin/lar2.htm?
[warning to those who may be offended: the poem contains the "f" word (although it's not used in a sexual sense).
] does anyone have any thoughts on it or any personal applications, particularly if you were raised as a jw?
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Hunyadi
This is the poem you gave a link to:
Philip Larkin - This Be The Verse
They fuck you up, your mum and dad. They may not mean to, but they do. They fill you with the faults they had And add some extra, just for you. But they were fucked up in their turn By fools in old-style hats and coats, Who half the time were soppy-stern And half at one another's throats. Man hands on misery to man. It deepens like a coastal shelf. Get out as early as you can, And don't have any kids yourself.
Although I can relate to this poem on the deepest level, it brings forth some very negative feelings. I feel empathy for any and all who feel that way about their parents, and I at one time felt that way about mine.
Since mom and dad died, the world seems alot less scarier, much smaller yet somehow limitless.
Since I became a man, a husband and a father, I am the sole cause for about 90% of everything that happens to me, therefore, I am now careful of what I cause.
There are only two things in life; reasons and results, and I have come to learn that reasons do not matter.
Yes, mom and dad f-d me up real good as a kid. I cannot, in good conscience as an adult, hold them accountable for the way my life has turned out today. Every decision I have made since I left home has been my own. I own it, and that feels good. It feels powerful to me.
What to do? I can only try with all sincerity and a good heart to break the patterns of behavior exemplified by my parents that hurt me, and give something a little better to my own children and hope they never read a poem like the one above and think of me in those severe terms.
I cannot do much to undo the generations of f-d up thinking and acting heaped upon me by those before me. I can only try to do things differently with my kids, and hope they do things just a bit better with their kids, and so on . . . the pattern gets broken slowly and with time.
Mom, Dad, I forgive you for being such lousy parents, and I know you did the best with what you had been given from your parents. I understand now, and I love you more than ever, even now that you are gone.
I cast back now, as it were, and I feel like this:
Gary Kemp-THROUGH THE BARRICADES
Mother doesn't know where love has gone She says it must be youth that keeps us feeling strong I see it in her face that's turned to ice And when she smiles she shows the lines of sacrifice And now I know what they're saying as our sun begins to fade And we made our love on wasteland and through the barricades Father made my history He fought for what he thought would set us somehow free He taught me what to say in school I learned it off by heart but now that's torn in two And now I know what they're saying in the music of the parade And we made our love on wasteland and through the barricades Born on different sides of life We feel the same and feel all of this strife So come to me when I'm asleep We'll cross the lines and dance upon the streets And now I know what they're saying as the drums begin to fade And we made our love on wasteland and through the barricades Oh turn around and I'll be there There's a scar right through my heart but I'll bear it again I thought we were the human race But we were just another borderline case And the stars reach down and tell us there's always one escape I don't know where love has gone And in this troubled land desperation keeps us strong Fridays child is full of soul With nothing left to lose there's everything to go And now I know what they're saying it's a terrible beauty we've made And we made our love on wasteland and through the barricades And now I know what they're saying as our hearts go to their graves And we made our love on wasteland and through the barricades
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Hunyadi
I believe that martian illustration is one of Dave Malone's pieces. Anyone confirm that?
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JW references in movies
by stichione ini watched the movie "mickey blue eyes" last night on tv, staring hugh grant.
at one point there is a knock at the door and mickey, looking through the peep hole, anounces "its the jehovah bloody witnesses".
there was more insitent knocking and the female occupant replies "they must be really devoted!".
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Hunyadi
The thing is, is when these references are made in movies and television, the WTBTS sees it as a "witness" being given to the general public.
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JW references in movies
by stichione ini watched the movie "mickey blue eyes" last night on tv, staring hugh grant.
at one point there is a knock at the door and mickey, looking through the peep hole, anounces "its the jehovah bloody witnesses".
there was more insitent knocking and the female occupant replies "they must be really devoted!".
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Hunyadi
A movie made back in the seventies starring Linda Carter and Marjoe Gortner (now a religious minister) called Bobby Jo and the Outlaw.
Bobby jo (Carter) walks into her mother's house (a southern family here portrayed), and her mother awkwardly tries to make conversation, and I think she was sitting holding a WT fanning herself with it:
"Some o' them Jehovah's Witnesses stopped by today . . . " (paraphrased)
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Hunyadi
I seriously doubt they even have a "Rover" up on Mars. The terrain looks more like some of the desert places I ride my quad at. The life they found was a field mouse. JK
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"You're an apostate!"
by Swan inwhat would you do in a situation like this?.
you're in a hurry, so want to just grab something quick for lunch in a nearby fast food restaurant and then eat back at your desk while you work.
there was a woman standing in front of the condiments area.
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Hunyadi
And would you mind not making a public scene it brings reproach on Jehovah's name.. Now get your ass out the way I'm hungry!
Ha ha ha, that's how I would handle it.
I know it is only a matter of time before all those I formerly associated with in the org get wind that I am an apostate. My wife will go ape-sh@t just like that sister you ran into in the shop. My kids will be shunned by everyone and it will be tough, but you know what? To hell with it. It has to happen some time, and I believe it will serve to show my kids what the org is really about. They won't suffer much.
I recently ran into the PO in my ex-wife's congregation. I had written him a long-ass letter about what the kids had been through living in their mother and stepfather's JW home, and how he was an ass for aiding them in damaging the kids emotionally. I also attached a big file of court documents detailing the abuse. I walked into Kingdom Hall in my abercrombie jeans and flip flops and put the packet into his hands. Months went by and he never responded, and mind you, I have known this man since we were kids. When I bumped into him in the Office Depot, I approached him and calmly asked him why he never responded to my letter. He said, "I didn't know I was suppose to". What an ass.
That was the clencher for me. I am out, I am proud and I am about to get very loud about it.
Dont take their crap. And DO get in their faces. (I'm still in the anger stage of my exiting of the org, lol.)
Best Regards,
Corvin
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Anagrams
by Hunyadi inwhat kind of anagrams can you come up with for the various terms or phrases used by the org?.
governing body = rob envying dog.
field service = if elves cried.
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Hunyadi
ha ha ha ha. Cool.
Corvin