Posts by Wallflower

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Form of art? dog lovers l@@k!

by plmkrzy in

maybe dog "lovers" was a bad choice of words.

i read this and thought it was pretty funny.

i'm just wondering what society will make of it 2,000 years from now when evidence is unearth of these torrid affairs.

Wallflower

Does the Fox Trot count as a doggy dance?

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Beard and politic

by Trotsky in

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elders and ministial servants are still today not allowed to be bearded.

it looks higly politicial to me and i beleave it is a leftover from the mccarthy period in the 50s.

joseph mccarthy was a us republican senator and communist witch hunter.

Wallflower

According to a BBC News item :

the continued wearing of ties could make you blind. Don't say you haven't been warned! :)

Wallflower

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2004 district convention theme is...

by brianhenke in

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..."walking with god.

" why not call it "walking with god after we just gave him glory"?.

name a place that has no jws.

by badboy in

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saudi arabia.

trobriand islands(i think i have spelled it right) off papua new guinea

What's your favorite JW word or phrase?

by Sara Annie in

in a minimus moment, i find myself interested in knowing which buzz-words and phrases in jw publications stand out the most to you?

when i read wt literature, i constantly find myself astounded by how transparently cultish the language is.

in an earlier, unrelated thread, i said the following: .

Music You Grew Up With

by Nosferatu in

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whenever people look at my cd collection, they'll come across blue oyster cult, black sabbath, iron maiden, led zeppelin, etc.

but then they'll come across something unusual.. right now i'm listening to "kenny rogers - ten years of gold".

my parents had this album, and i loved it.

I was very lucky, musically at least, my mother was into swing, Duke Ellington and the RatPack, while the old man was into Ray Charles, Milt jackson, Dinah Washington and had been bitten by the Blues at early age.

A story my mother always likes to relate is after a meeting when I was a young kid, we got in the house and I asked my dad to play some jazz on the record player. He put on a track called the Back Street (?) Mortuary Blues, a 40's blues track about a guy who has to identify his dead girlfriend. At aged 8 I didn't understand it, but my mother thought my father might have sympathised with the record a bit too much.

Incidently, isn't the root of the word jazz - jass, Swahili, which means sex, or a vulgar form of it? Must be a JW no-no.

My father, due to some mental aberration, or instructed at an elders meeting, or some such nonsense, he stayed up one night and listened to all the records my sister and I owned. He then wrote on the cover of each record in biro (unforgiveable) his comments, eg sex, demonic, about suicide etc. He probably had nightmares for a month, I was into AC/DC, Free, The Doors, Led Zep, Santana and James Brown. He never asked us to throw them out though, which I thought was odd considering the content. Led Zep demonic, Santana - demonic, AC/DC Satan loving, child eating fornicators - Excellent stuff

Wallflower

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New manuscripts

by Wallflower in

on another post shotgun quoted a scripture from john 8.. i have a copy of the new international version bible, first published in 1973 by the international bible society.. regarding the above scripture it says and i quote : .

"the earliest and most reliable manuscripts and other ancient witnesses do not have john 7:53-8:11".

i'd be glad if anyone can shed any light on what are "the earliest and most reliable manuscripts" and who are the "other ancient witnesses"?

Wallflower

Thanks for the answers. I don't have a copy of the NWT, but in all my time growing up in the 'truth', I don't remember the footnotes anywhere, or perhaps was never interested enough to follow asterisks. It surprised me that in the NIV it was so blatant.

Wallflower

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New manuscripts

by Wallflower in

on another post shotgun quoted a scripture from john 8.. i have a copy of the new international version bible, first published in 1973 by the international bible society.. regarding the above scripture it says and i quote : .

"the earliest and most reliable manuscripts and other ancient witnesses do not have john 7:53-8:11".

i'd be glad if anyone can shed any light on what are "the earliest and most reliable manuscripts" and who are the "other ancient witnesses"?

Wallflower

On another post Shotgun quoted a scripture from John 8.

I have a copy of the New International Version Bible, first published in 1973 by the International Bible Society.

Regarding the above scripture it says and I quote :

"The earliest and most reliable manuscripts and other ancient witnesses do not have John 7:53-8:11"

I'd be glad if anyone can shed any light on what are "the earliest and most reliable manuscripts" and who are the "other ancient witnesses"?

Also, the WTS try to give the impression that they strive for the purity of the Bible - how can they square this and not note in the NWT that there is some doubt over the above scripture (to name but one) ?

Wallflower

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One More Elder who is starting to Question the WT

by sis in distress in

he told my husband ?i don?t care, i just need to know is this the truth or not?

i just don?t understand why.

once again i was asked a question that i could not answer.

Wallflower

When I went to the United Nations website to see the listing of all it?s NGO?s the Society was listed right along with dozens and dozens of other religions

Errr.....................no it isn't and hasn't been for sometime.

Wallflower

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Hidden Images in the JW Publications

by Hunyadi in

i am a disfellowshipped brother and have never had a problem with the organization's doctrines.

i am, however, deeply disturbed at the undeniable use of hidden or subliminal images in the illustrations of the wt publications.

there are so many that it cannot be interpreted as anything other than a deliberate pattern.

Wallflower

Hi Everyone,

I just think this is a clever ruse. It is done to promote a reaction, even subconsciously, in the JW mind. Every JW is paranoid about demonism, they find it in everything from the Smurfs to charity shop clothes to TV programs. The subconscious mind will pick up on these pictures and form an emotional response to what is being seen. So over time when the picture, the article and even the publication is recalled so is the emotion response that was experienced when the image was first viewed. Emotional recall. The same technique is used in marketing. Skulls in ice cubes with adverts for whisky, evidently.

The other clever way they us is to be blatant with symbols. Recently, I seem to remember, there was an article about whether Jesus was impaled on a cross or a stake. The article was liberally sprinkled with pictures of crosses, on churches, even Jesus on a cross. To someone who has a phobia about crucifixes this would create a deep emotional response, that would be remembered, like seeing naked people in the middle of a gardening magazine ? upsetting. Don?t forget that all that appears in publications is safe for a JW, pictures, quotes and all, but the shock value from the initial ?turning the page and there it was? would still be felt. To outsiders it would appear normal, even enlightened, not being afraid to show the ?worldly? side.

This is just advertising, trying to get emotional recall. They may or may not be involved with the Illuminati; they may or may not be into Devil worship, but they are not going to publicize this in their publications.

Wallflower

?For what it?s worth?