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  Ray Franz Passed Away Today

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  i just received word that ray franz passed away today at 1:37 pm eastern daylight time.

  the cause of death is stated as head trauma, likely due to falling to the ground, and a stroke could have also been part of the cause or a result of the fall.

  he died at emory university hospital in atlanta about 17 minutes after being taken off life support.

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  Apology to Barb & Clarification

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  i misunderstood a number of things about what barbara anderson did or said.

  she and i were just starting to exchange thoughts on this when unfortunately i was strongly challenged in a way that moved me to defend myself, and in the process, my defense may have appeared like an attack.

  i would never do that to barb, and i am sorry it was taken that way.

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  Grilled by the Watchtower - They asked about Ray Franz

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  upcoming postings: okay folks, i have found some really good information, such as the court rulings that i will post, and also the petition by the society's attorneys to protect their judicial committees ... you can see first hand how they tried to save themselves.

  18 q. have you met raymond franz face to.

  5 a. not face to face.. 6 q. when is the last time you.

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  Watchtower Moving its Headquarters from USA?

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  i may be behind times, but i have not seen this issue come up.

  i have had some contact with jws inside the organization who said that the society is planning to move its headquarters from brooklyn, ny to canada, lock, stock, and barrel.

  is this an urban legend, a jw pulling my leg, or is it factual?

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  The real 1st President of the Watch Tower - Not Russell

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  like a number of you, i have known for years that chuck russell was not the first president of the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania ... which was first founded before any other watchtower corporation.. who have been the presidents and when:.

  1. william henry conely (the con man) - feb 1881 to dec. 1884 is the first president (chuck russell was sec.-treasurer).

  3. joey rutherford - jan 1917 to jan 1942.

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  More are waking up to the false prophecies as well as the hyocrisy

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  jehovah will do none of the things you suggest ... jehovah, as he is defined by watchtower styled teachings, or the teaching fantasies of a number of ex-jws, is a false god, and simply does not exist.

  that is what watchtower false prophecy proves to me ... that their weak little pathetic god, that they market under the name jehovah, has less substance than a roman statue of jupiter.. if you accept the bible ... then as st. luke states, in acts 4:12, "neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

  " as the scripture says, the father transferred name recognition to the son.

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  Myths about the Church - to Coffee

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  the following are questions raised by coffee_black that deserve a response:.

  opening note: often times we here how rome cherry-picked the bible to suit their doctrine, yet many people, mostly non-catholics demand that only the bible sola scriptura be used as the canon of the faith.

  there is a serious inconsistency in such a demand that both worships the bible on one hand and then condemns the church which compiled that very same book on the other hand; the very same church, and the only church which formally declared the bible is inspired 800 years after jesus christ!.

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  The Face of an Evil Slave Apostate

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  the ex-jws who leaves (escapes) by reason of conscience is labeled an apostate ... but when one of the anointed leaves, he/she is labeled an evil slave apostate ... so, below, is such an evil slave ... do you see him?

  yes, and he enjoys the 'double bubble' inside ... two scotches for the price of one.

  yes, the evil slave needs a good belt of scotch once in a while!.

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  What is the Truth? How do you Define it?

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  jws teach that 'accurate knowledge' is the definition of truth.

  they add to this by saying that the 'conduct' of average church goers also identifies them as not being in the 'truth.

  ' and, they define their 'organization' as being the truth, because they are a clean people who are doing right works, and teaching accurately.

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  Intellectual Honesty - What it Means & Does not Mean

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  recently, someone whom i said was being intellectually dishonest, took it to mean that i was accusing her/him of being deceptive.

  this is not the meaning of intellectual dishonesty.

  intellectual dishosesty is about the use of false argumentation styles, something many jws do not spot in wts arguments, and something that a number of ex-jws carry with them and unwittingly employ.. a case example: today, president obama chose to sign a bill that protects 2,000,000 acres, some of which is good for ranching and recreation.. intellectual dishonesty by a far right conservative may see this as a threat to individual rights to own land, farm, and ranch, and may compare such a bill as taking us toward more government ownership of land.

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