"I have never seen a religious group as large as JW that get along in peace, shore they have personality clashes and others are not as loving as they should be. But go to a convention and see them all together in unity, all the different nationalities, clean and obedient and united.
that speaks volumes to me."
Fresia,
Its all orchestrated though. They even have to have a pre assembly study to remind people how they should be seen to act in various circumstances.
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Boris Johnson....THE Mayor of London
by digderidoo inas you may or may not know yesterday was the mayoral elections in london.. the results are now in, for those who do not know him, here he is....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzaazszlewk&feature=related.
cannot believe it.......................here he is playing football..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1en7yvqhamg&feature=related.
what a joke.... paul.
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"Nice to see a racist, bigoted homophobe leading London"
From Wikipedia:
"Two days after Boris Johnson's candidacy for Mayor of London took a six point poll lead over Ken Livingstone in a YouGov survey published by the Daily Telegraph [51], Doreen Lawrence, mother of murdered teenager Stephen Lawrence, said that he would 'destroy London's unity', adding that 'once people read his views, there is no way he is going to get the support of any people in the black community'.
She was referring especially to the occasion on which Johnson, as a journalist in 1999, accused the Macpherson Inquiry, which reported on police racism following the Lawrence murder, of 'hysteria', adding that the "recommendation that the law might be changed so as to allow prosecution for racist language or behaviour 'other than in a public place'" was akin to "Ceausescu's Romania".[52]
The Conservative London Assembly candidate for Bexley and Bromley and former Conservative candidate for mayor of Lewisham, James Cleverly, another prominent black Londoner, rejected Doreen Lawrence's criticisms, saying, 'The comments that Doreen Lawrence made about Boris Johnson yesterday are deeply unfair. She implies an attitude towards the Macpherson report which is just not borne out by the facts, her words are clearly designed to taint Boris with a whiff of racism and to claim that "there is no way he is going to get the support of any people in the black community" is ridiculous"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Johnson
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I have a theory regarding Elders
by Peppermint inthere has been much talk about the reasons for the demise of the book study.
the society claim rising gas/petrol prices, which of course is not the real reason.
some here think its down to declining numbers of elders and those who are reaching out.
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Alpaca,
"Since were chatting, it has always amazed me that the Brits, being such rational people could have fallen so hard for such an All American religion--what's up with that?"
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Diary of a thinking to return ex-Jw
by reniaa ini thought long and hard about posting this but the mis-information on this site finally persuaded me, i already accept many may not accept what i say on face value and get their appologist pens ready for making sure no pro-witness propaganda slips through the net on this site but here goes....... i've been on this forum for a few months my first post was about how i was thinking of returning to jw's and at my sisters recommendation to look at this site for both sides of the story before taking that step.. i faded from jw's 10/11 years ago now i left my hubby at the time divorced him to going on to have more relationships and kids, i was definately given the impression after asking on this site and with what i read that if i tried to return i might face df or at least a jc but definately a couple of elders questioning me over what i've been upto these last few years - none of these have happened.
i talked with an old jw friend (yes i do have then and she never shunned me quite happily accepted an offer of coffee from me and my asking for a chat) i told her i was interested in going back and was very frank about what i done in the last 10 years but not sure how returning was done now, she quite happily said she go ask for me to find out.. result!
she came back this week and said "all i had to do was goto meetings again" and an offer of a study was there for me if i wanted it to explore the open doubts that i had expressed i now had.. not quite the fire and brimstone welcome this site led me to believe would happen.. i will keep you posted with further updates if i feel the need to put them in future.. .
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Reniaa,
When you had coffee with this old JW friend did she say to you the Internet is full of apostates and lies?... I bet she did.
I don't see this site as be being full of misinformation and I am sure you don't really. You are just repeating a JW mantra.
That is the problem with returning, you have to give up your own mind. Bit by bit they will take away your ability to think for yourself so you have to go to them for all the answers, like you friend did.
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rangers in the EUFA cup final
by ninja inwooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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i don't expect you non scots to understand but......ninja is so happy.....come on the gers
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"Man Utd beating Barcalona and into the Real Cup Final trumps it . . "
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Q: What happens when you block my driveway?
by Elsewhere ina: i block your car.. today i was out and about enjoying a rare day off work.
all was well and i was feeling good and having a good time... then i came home and found this grey honda parked in my driveway blocking me from parking in my garage (the one i pay $70 a month for).
ok, if asshole wants to block me, i'll block asshole.
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"This line of reasoning is absurd. Are you suggesting that people should go through life only doing what every type of person is capable of doing?"
I am only making the point that aggression favors those who are physically able to dish it out. -
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Q: What happens when you block my driveway?
by Elsewhere ina: i block your car.. today i was out and about enjoying a rare day off work.
all was well and i was feeling good and having a good time... then i came home and found this grey honda parked in my driveway blocking me from parking in my garage (the one i pay $70 a month for).
ok, if asshole wants to block me, i'll block asshole.
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"Ya so what? Confrontation from one degree to another is integral to sticking up for oneself."
So should I suggest to my frail old mother to confront someone when she feels slighted by such a minor issue, should she take it to the next level if they ignore her?
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I have a theory regarding Elders
by Peppermint inthere has been much talk about the reasons for the demise of the book study.
the society claim rising gas/petrol prices, which of course is not the real reason.
some here think its down to declining numbers of elders and those who are reaching out.
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Hey Ynot, thats a scary thought. Elder clones. I wonder if the society has a laboratory.
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Public Talk & Bookstudy Changes - the real reason
by bud2114 ini havn't been able to keep up with all the discussion in this forum as to why the gb has suddenly decided to implement these changes and perhaps someone has mentioned this already, but to me the most obvious reason has nothing to do with control, or money.
it has everything to do with the serious shortage of qualified brothers who can (or who are willing to) be used.
i have been involved in the organzation for 40 yrs and i have never seen the level of apathy and disillusionment among those serving in some capacity in this organization.
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Interesting points. I put my own idea on a separate thread as I did not see this one.
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Are we hyper-sensitised to JW changes? Do we exaggerate their importance?
by yadda yadda 2 insometimes i think we lose all perspective at times on here.
that we are just as prone to over-magnifying any meaning behind relatively minor changes like this in the organisation in the same way jw's are prone to over exaggerate every bit of bad news in the world to mean armageddon is near.. when you sit down in the cold light of day, this change to the bookstudy arrangement for example, is it really that much a big deal?
i strongly doubt it really, despite initial reactions (including my own).
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"JW's are prone to over exaggerate every bit of bad news in the world to mean Armageddon is near."
Well this is our history, we have been taught well in the art of making something out of nothing.