I was constantly told to keep busy and everything else would fall into place. When you go on holiday (Vacation) you are told not to forget meetings, field service etc. It is hard to give yourself time to think in the “truth”.
From the platform I remember hearing an example of a couple who stopped going to meetings for a few weeks to decorate their house. The brother said weeks turned into months, months turned into years. There is a manufactured fear of losing your faith in God/hope for eternal life by being inactive for even a short time.
In my case I became ill, had to stop attending meetings and immediately relaxed-thought-read-remembered-understood. No wonder inactivity is frowned upon.
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Jws use activity as a distraction
by atypical ini was just thinking - since i have been fading and not at meetings, i have gotten many, many phone calls.
i have gotten many comments.
it occurred to me that every time i hear something from a witness, it has to do with trying to get me involved in an activity.
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WHAT IS QUINTESSENTIALLY ENGLISH?
by Dansk inthis is actually something that fascinates me and i'd like your own opinions on the subject.
i list here things i feel are quintessentially english (with apologies to the scots, welsh and irish as they have their own uniqueness).. first of all, it's got to be a cup of tea (yes, i know it wasn't originally made here, but it has become an integral part of 'englishness').. cup of tea.
cricket.
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Hedgerows, village pubs, Church spires. Having a peaceful sense of contentment but with just a hint of the sinister under the surface.
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Is Dawkins the answer?
by Peppermint ini watched the second part of richard dawkins program yesterday evening -the root of all evil?- i really have enjoyed this program and have found dawkins to come across as genuine and humane.
the problem i have with the program is that i do not want to believe his point of view, but i am feeling more and more drawn towards it.
the point i notice most about his stance is that he feels religion and science just cannot sit side by side, you have to believe one or the other.
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Abaddon,
It is true that many Christians accept some form of evolution, but Dawkins clearly will not accept any of them. Dawkins dismisses all religious experience as worthless, this is my only concern with him. I have no sympathy with fundamentalist religion in any guise myself, but clearly Dawkins does show a level of fundamentalism in his hatred of it which as I said extends to all religious experience.
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Is Dawkins the answer?
by Peppermint ini watched the second part of richard dawkins program yesterday evening -the root of all evil?- i really have enjoyed this program and have found dawkins to come across as genuine and humane.
the problem i have with the program is that i do not want to believe his point of view, but i am feeling more and more drawn towards it.
the point i notice most about his stance is that he feels religion and science just cannot sit side by side, you have to believe one or the other.
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"Believing things based on what you "want" to believe is just.plain.silly."
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Is Dawkins the answer?
by Peppermint ini watched the second part of richard dawkins program yesterday evening -the root of all evil?- i really have enjoyed this program and have found dawkins to come across as genuine and humane.
the problem i have with the program is that i do not want to believe his point of view, but i am feeling more and more drawn towards it.
the point i notice most about his stance is that he feels religion and science just cannot sit side by side, you have to believe one or the other.
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Thanks Dave,
Well maybe I will start by reading Dawkins, after all he seems like a reasonable person (on TV anyway) . Is there a particular book that I should begin with?
I listened to Desert Island Discs a few weeks back and the person on it was a Philosopher called Mary Midgley :
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/factual/desertislanddiscs_20051120.shtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Midgley
She mentioned Dawkins a lot in the program and disagrees with a lot of what he stands for although she does not appear to be overtly religious herself, it was this program that got me thinking about the whole issue in the first place. -
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Is Dawkins the answer?
by Peppermint ini watched the second part of richard dawkins program yesterday evening -the root of all evil?- i really have enjoyed this program and have found dawkins to come across as genuine and humane.
the problem i have with the program is that i do not want to believe his point of view, but i am feeling more and more drawn towards it.
the point i notice most about his stance is that he feels religion and science just cannot sit side by side, you have to believe one or the other.
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I watched the second part of Richard Dawkins program yesterday evening -The Root of all Evil?- I really have enjoyed this program and have found Dawkins to come across as genuine and humane. The problem I have with the program is that I do not want to believe his point of view, but I am feeling more and more drawn towards it. The point I notice most about his stance is that he feels religion and science just cannot sit side by side, you have to believe one or the other.
My question : Is Dawkins just another fundamentalist, one in a white overall opposed to a white collar (or blue/brown polyester suite in JW world). I know to the Christian community he is perceived as the anti-Christ, so maybe this is what drives him. The program did not contain a lot of meat so I want to read more, it really is a subject I have chosen not to explore until now.
Is Dawkins the only place to go with this, or are there other Evolutionists out there who give an easier to swallow outline of evolution, for an ex-jw who’s faith in God has diminished but doesn’t want to be extinguished just yet. -
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Guardian site
by Peppermint inhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1687735,00.html
edited to make link clickable ~ scully
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1687735,00.html edited to make link clickable ~ Scully
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Your childhood meals.
by greendawn indo you have good memories from your childhood when it comes to the meals your mother served you?
what did she give you to eat when you were ill?
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Liver & Onions Yum yum.
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How much do you pay for your internet service?
by JH ina few years ago, i had dial up internet with netrover, and cost about 18$ a month, unlimited use.
but it was slow.. then i had videotron here in quebec, low speed internet (cable) for about 29$ a month which was about 3 to 4 times faster than dial up.
now i upgraded it to high speed for about 45$ a month plus tax of course.
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£19.95 per month with Pipex. No complaints yet.
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Coming Oil Shocks - real or myth?
by Qcmbr ini've been reading a very persuasive site regarding a potential coming oil shock: .
http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/ .
i've also looked at some of the counter arguements such as the theory of abiotic oil (oil is not a fossil fuel it is generated deep in the earth by geological processes and is therefore not going to run out.
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I know nothing about the politics or science of this subject but I did have a recent experience regarding this.
I work in a central London location selling audio, home cinema and custom house systems to very wealth people. A lot of our customers are bankers, celebrities etc.
The experience I had was with a Canadian or American Banker who was purchasing a stand alone system from me. During the process of the sale you get to talk about all sorts of stuff with these people and as the environment is set out like a lounge and is very informal, people do relax and talk.
Anyhow this guy was very wealthy, at the top of his profession and extremely intelligent. But…and in his own words “because of my inside knowledge” he was running for the hills.
He was of the opinion that the world was on course for an oil disaster and that it as going to happen really soon. His key objective was to get out of the city where he foresaw anarchy and head for a rural retreat were he would be self sufficient, in his case someplace in Canada. He told me I should do the same.