I fully intent to expose an organization, that protects child molesters. And I will not stop talking, revealing, exposing, or witholding information where it can be used to protect the innocent.
Puternut
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Do You Think We Are Hurting The Organization By What We Do Here?
by minimus in....i sure hope so.
i wonder if we are making a real difference here.
i do hope we are chipping away at the very foundation of the organization.
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Toooo funny !!
by Puternut ini was last saturday at the verizon store, getting my cell phone fixed.
i am standing in line and waitin for the next salesperson to help me.
out of the corner of my eye is this guy standing, shaking his head at me.
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Puternut
I was last Saturday at the Verizon store, getting my cell phone fixed. I am standing in line and waitin for the next salesperson to help me. Out of the corner of my eye is this guy standing, shaking his head at me. It's my ex- brother in law. So I looked at him and asked him, why are you standing there shaking your head at me? He said, I had no business being in that story in the first place ! I said, Oh? Aren't df's not allowed in retail stores now either? He said, you are a deadman anyway, and we'll take it outside! The sales people were getting frustrated with his attitude, and asked him to calm it down. So I replied, that's a nice attitude for a christian, take it outside? I thought to myself, here he's been out in field service in the morning, and now wants to smack me up the head with a bible?
So I ignored him, and just shook my head in disbelief. Then he told me to never address him again. I said; I can talk to you, but you can't talk to me. (nani nani boo boo) So what do you think about that? That just pissed him off so bad, he was shaking. At least I was done before him and just left.
I just called the PO in his congregation, and told him about his 'loving christian attitude' Didn't Jesus love his enemies? He said, he'd call him on the carpet.........:P
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would you hit a woman if she hit you first? (for men)
by pudd ini would like to as the men on the board a question.
if your wife/partner were to slap you during an argument, would you feel that if you were you to hit back it would make you equal?.
we all know that violance, no matter how minor is wrong, but this is a question about equality.
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Puternut
Never !!
Obviously, she is trying to make a point, or looking for some attention, that she is not getting. The most effective thing to do, I found, is walk up to her, look her in the eyes, tell her you love her, and kiss her tenderly. Within moments, she'll melt, and you have gained your friend.
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Seattle Ex-JW Dinner Meet-up
by Gretchen956 inafter considerable discussion on where to go, lots of good advice, several attempts at reservations that did not pan out, i have finally reserved a place for dinner.. anyone in or near the seattle area please join us on february 7, 2004 at 6:30 p.m. at tony roma's at southcenter.
for those coming in from out of town, southcenter is located close to where i-5 and i-405 meet south of seattle.
type in this address into mapqwest or into yahoo maps or whatever other mapping program you use:.
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Puternut
Rats, you guys, this is short notice. I am in Spokane and would love to come see you all. I sure need the support. Just don't know if I can make it considering the time frame. Anyone know of a cheap motel there somewhere? Maybe somehow I can slip out from under my busy schedule. I'll be coming alone if I decide to go.
Puternut.
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Please Help Me !!!! Desperate !!!!
by Puternut ini am in serious need of some direction.
for those of you are df'd and have children in the borg, i am going through a crisis.. i have two daughters 19 and 17 years of age and i was privileged to have met with them last night for about an hour.
i haven't seen them for about 7 months, and was able to convince them to meet with me.
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Puternut
Thanks for that post. I relate to you concerning the fact that my father was also df'd, though not divorced. He was out for 18 years, and I was pressured by the elders at that time, not to have ANY contact with him. I didn't agree with that stand point even at that time, but like an obedient puppy, I followed the rules. However I missed him for all those long years. His health declined, and had an anurism. He turned into a vegetable, and was promptly called on by the elders. He, with his limited mind, got reinstated. And came to the US to visit us. I didn't recognize him. He was a totally different man. There was a gap of 18 years, that had passed. I had raised two girls and he had never met them. Last year he died. And I miss him terribly. I have allowed myself to do this to him. And I cannot forgive myself for having turned my back on him. For all those years I still loved him unconditionally. Now it's too late, I can't have him back.
I know that talking down to my children about their beliefs is not the answer. And I have not done that. I am responsible after all to have brainwashed them myself in their beliefs. And their mom is talking plenty about me. I haven't said anything to them about that. As a matter of fact I still call her 'mom' instead of 'your mother'. And they appreciate that.
Patience is a virtue. And it's hard not to call them, when you sit alone in your house holding the pictures of them on your hands. Or looking through a photo album, when you were having fun with them at the beach. I feel like they have been ripped away from me. And I have little power.
Like you mentioned, my oldest was 'trying' to spoil it last night at the restaurant. And my youngest noticed her mean behaviour. My dinner had just been served and I pushed it aside, because I had lost my appetite. I couldn't say much in reply, because I know she was angry. Her world has been turned upside down, and she is bitter. And I know this is part of her healing process as well. But it was hard, after not having seen them for so long. I wasn't exprecting a 'great' time. But I was hoping for at least some family dialogue, that would be at least on a friendly level. I am trying to be so careful and I feel like I am walking on egg shells. Everytime I open my mouth, I get a load full from them. I just didn't know what to say to them to start repairing things. My eyes were flooded with tears, and my voice was quivering. I was at a loss for words. This is all new to me.
But your suggestions on not allowing that was helpful. How long I will have to wait now for my next visit, remains to be seen.
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Please Help Me !!!! Desperate !!!!
by Puternut ini am in serious need of some direction.
for those of you are df'd and have children in the borg, i am going through a crisis.. i have two daughters 19 and 17 years of age and i was privileged to have met with them last night for about an hour.
i haven't seen them for about 7 months, and was able to convince them to meet with me.
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Puternut
I am in serious need of some direction. For those of you are df'd and have children in the borg, I am going through a crisis.
I have two daughters 19 and 17 years of age and I was privileged to have met with them last night for about an hour. I haven't seen them for about 7 months, and was able to convince them to meet with me. I labeled it 'necessary family business'. We have some healing to do since I am divorced and they are taking the brunt of this. I feel horrible about the fact that their lives are upheaveled, and I know they are hurting as well. Divorce has a major impact on children, and I hurt with them. The thing that is most painful is the fact that I am df'd and they are indoctrinated with their beliefs from the organization. Since I am df'd, the organization labels me as a bad person, that you cannot have contact with. Out of respect for their conscienses, I have not forced the issue of visitation. I feel that I need to be careful not to make them feel uncomfortable. But I am not df'd from my children, and I am not divorced from them.
I need to help them to repair the broken family relationship, and since it will never be the same as they were accustumed to, we need to rebuild on what we currently have. Since I have limited visits, what can I do to repair that? They feel there is no repairing, unless I get reinstated, and therefore don't really care to visit with me. This is not my intention, since I know too much about all that I have learned about the borg, and feel betrayed. How can I help them to see that though I am df'd, I am still their father and we cannot let stand in their way, the conditions about reinstatement. I know they miss me, and they want a father in their lives.
I miss them, and I don't want a chasm in our lives, just because I have a different understanding regarding my beliefs. I also respect theirs and don't want to shatter their beliefs, with what I have found out. What have some of you done in this regard? What suggestions can you give me? What have you found to be effective?
Can you please give me some direction? This is all new to me.
Puternut
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What do you say when the Mormons come by?
by MegaDude injust got through having a conversation with two mormons going door to door on this cold saturday here in fort worth, texas.
damn, they remind me so much of jehovah's witnesses it isn't even funny: the same zeal, the same conviction, the same confidence.
as a matter of fact, they seemed a lot more of all these things.
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Puternut
"What's with the holy 'underwear' anyway?"
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How big was your book bag?
by 2escaped lifers in.
all you ex-"brothers": was this just in my area (north alabama), or do any of you remember there being an unstated, but real nonetheless, pecking order amongst the brothers that correlated the size of your meeting briefcase/bookbag to your level of spirituality?.
don't know why i was thinking about this today.... brandon
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Puternut
Brandon,
It was not the size that mattered, but the kinds of publications you caried. This was especially so in service.
Though the elders and servants always carried bigger ones due to all the paperwork that was in them. And you could spot them in a crowd.
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What do they say about you now that you're out?
by ColdRedRain inyesterday, i was on the phone with a friend i met while i was down in florida.
we had a nice long chat about how she doesn't feel as though she wants to be a jw anymore, and i gave her good guidence, and one of the peices of good guidence i gave her was "do not worry about your reputation, your reputation is held in low esteem by people who are in themselves in low esteem.
" she then told me about how my reputation was slammed down in florida.
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Puternut
"I hope he comes back, after all he was an elder. I can't understand why is not going to meetings now"
I wished they would at least talk to me, I have yet to talk to one. All of them turn their heads and walk the other way. Even other elders. I am ready for a good discussion about the UN and Child abuse !
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life drawing models
by petespal2002 ini followed the post started by puternut about doctors/artists/pornea etc.
with great interest, and it made me wonder, what would happen if a dub took a job modelling for life classes?
has anyone done it?
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Puternut
It's sad that she feels embarassed by this. She should be proud that she was able to have her beauty captured in history forever.