truth_hurts,
I think privacy should be respected if and when possible. If I was sitting on the obviously juicy info you have I'd want to post it too.
I don't think I would though. I choose to not listen to private conversations, nor repeat them. I was merely expressing an opinion not attempting to regulate this board. I'm just a guest here.
Prisca,
This was about kissing? How in the h*ll did I miss that?
TruthHurts,
Thanks for clarifying that...I thought I was seeing double.
Everyone else,
It's Friday! YIPPEE!
amicus
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i'm here, let's have some fun
by truth_hurts inhi people,.
i am a new participant on this board but have been following jw websites for a long time.
a friend has recently supplied me with a bunch of documents that show the way that our "friends" over at witnessesonline.com really feel about their participants, and particularly some of you that now are participants here.
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Tales from the Couch
by Seven ini asked my therapist if it is possible for a patient to be re-traumatized during the course of treatment.
confronting memories over and over again.
painting mental images even more graphic to replace the vague ones i once had-is this a good thing?
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Awww, Seven.
Anyone here who doesn't love you, doesn't know how to love.
Of course your therapist can attempt to make you relive events that are better forgotten. Therapists are like gardeners...there's good and bad. A good one tries to make their visits unnecessary-a bad one....
I don't have a lot of professional experience with psychologists-I do have personal experience with them (known 'em more than used 'em).
I can never understand the trauma you have experienced (except that I wasn't there as your "big brother" to protect you-I know I'm not the only one here who feels this way, either). I can't comment on the value of your "sessions".
I can tell a "Seven" story however, When I first joined this DB I read one of your posts in which you said "I'm not a good writer", after that I read another of your's that described some of your interactions with your Father. When I read this story I saw a movie, not words...You told of how your father would try to get you to leave your painting ("Me, a painter"-is how I think you worded it), to go fishing with him. He was decked out in "Eddie Bauer" gear. I shop at Eddie Bauer stores and saw him in one of those silly fishing vests and goofy hats...You described how the both of you were gadget freaks...(yep, I suppose a lot of us here fit that bill). I filled in some blanks..I heard some background music...I heard Joni Mitchell's "A Case of You" (I haven't heard that song since 1971, but I heard it as I read your story):
"Oh, I am a lonely painter
I live in a box of paints
I'm frightened by the devil
And I'm drawn to those ones that ain't afraid
I remember that time you told me, you said,
"Love is touching souls"
Surely you touched mine
'Cause part of you pours out of me
In these lines from time from time
Oh, you're in my blood like holy wine
You taste so bitter and so sweet
Oh I could drink a case of you
Still I'd be on my feet
I would still be on my feet..."
You concluded by saying that you couldn't resist his insisting that you accompany him down to the fishin' pond. There he delighted in showing you all of his unique lures...
You then told of how the two of you were seperated 'cause of the teachings of the WTS. At that point my memory fades...I block storys I hear of families being torn apart because of the evil teachings of the WTS. I HATE injustice.
You are held in high regard here. We can never replace the family that was unjustly torn from you. We can't undo the wrongs that you suffered. But we will always stand by you. JAVA posted a thread about unity on this DB a while ago...we are united in our support of you.
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i'm here, let's have some fun
by truth_hurts inhi people,.
i am a new participant on this board but have been following jw websites for a long time.
a friend has recently supplied me with a bunch of documents that show the way that our "friends" over at witnessesonline.com really feel about their participants, and particularly some of you that now are participants here.
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i'm here, let's have some fun
by truth_hurts inhi people,.
i am a new participant on this board but have been following jw websites for a long time.
a friend has recently supplied me with a bunch of documents that show the way that our "friends" over at witnessesonline.com really feel about their participants, and particularly some of you that now are participants here.
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truth_hurts,
I'm all for fun. Just not this kind of fun. If these were private conversations, why air them publicly? Would you like YOUR private conversations posted here? I wouldn't. I'd do everything in my power to find and silence one who chose to behave in this manner.
We may disagree with those whom you choose to expose...but...do we have to sink to their level? Or lower?
I have a lot of private conversations with others...I WILL keep those visits private.
Amicus (lesseee, how did that go?..."do unto others as..)
-Sorry if this comes off a little too harsh...I had to leave work early today because someone planted a bomb outside one of the gates of the prison where I'm working...I hate wasting my time...I don't like it when others infringe on my rights...Edited by - amicus on 22 February 2001 20:55:20
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Six,
What I find most interesting about this thread is that this morning I stood among a group of people who-mezmorized by the sunrise-wondered at it's magnificence. One person broke the silence and said, "That's why I know there's a God".
This is an unusual occurance in my environment. I was still contemplating this mornings beauty when I chanced upon your thread. I seem to have these moments of "Deja Vu" often. Especially so since joining this DB.
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Six things Jehovah hates; yes, seven
by Grunt in1. lofty eyes -.
february 15,.
1991, watchtower article you were bought with a price.
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Introducing myself..hello all...
by DannyBear ini'am dannybear i have been lurking around here from time to time, for the last several weeks.
this forum seems to be a friendly group, not to mention i see jt, englishman, focus, waiting and few others that are very familiar to me from h20.. i live in california.
i was raised as a jw (third generation), got the unceremonious 'boot'(df)in 1980-81 been so long..i can't remember the actual date.
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DannyBear,
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Who's Going to the Memorial??
by Prisca injust wondering..... for those of us who are inactive, or have serious doubts, etc etc... are you going to the memorial, even though you don't fully agree with how they explain things?.
anyone planning to have their own at home?.
or are you still planning on going, even if it's to say g'day to long "lost" friends?.
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These things are easier for me. The lines less blurred. When my "visit' comes, as I expect it soon will; cloaked in the guise of an invitation to the memorial-my answers will be simple but clear.
If asked if I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses, I will unhesitatingly answer, "Was James one of Jehovah's Witnesses? John? Peter?"..."Yes, then I think of myself as one of Jehovah's Witnesses as well".
Is the Society the Faithful and Discrete slave? "No, they are neither faithful nor discrete. Their actions show that they've said in their hearts, "My master is delaying"."
I have no family members who lay claim to the title of J. Witnesses. My true friends will stay by my side....The path I follow is not always clearly marked, but it does point in one direction, and that direction is not Brooklyn, NY. I don't wish to offend anyone, but I will no longer hide my true feelings-when someone chooses to ask what those feelings are.
I don't care to spend the Memorial in a cold, dead building. There is a granite boulder close to my house overlooking the American River. In the summertime it serves as a great diving platform into the deep, clear water; about a 40' plunge. This time of year it's a great place to sit and read. That would be a great day to read about the actual event. Anyone care to join me? We could discuss it after reading aloud the various accounts, kinda like the early Christians would have done. -
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R U DFshipped?
by DFshipped ini am a dfshipped person who is working towards reinstatement.. i would like to meet anyone else who also would like to return.. i really would prefer not to meet people who want to criticize my desire to return.
i would like to enjoy and offer encouragemnt to others like me.
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CurleyQT,
I too posted here for therapy. I wanted to exit this religion with no baggage. Seven weeks later the baggage is gone. Thanks, group. No, what I really mean is "Thanks, my new friends".
One can't follow their heart when they are trying to follow rules established by men. It's wonderful to actually be able to use my instincts again. Finally!,I feel spiritual rather than just obedient, it's been a while.
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How about 10 favourite albums (er, cd's)
by amicus inhow about your 10 all time favourite cd's.
mine:.
beach boy's -pet sounds.
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Johnny Cash's Greatest Hits - Folsom Prison Blues, Big River, Sunday Morning Coming Down
Hey Grunt,
i just started a project at Folsom Prison and it got me thinking about J. Cash's old songs. I now drive to work with the radio off singing F. Prison blues, Ring of Fire, Girl from the North Country (with Dylan)and others. I think Cash is underappreciated.
The Project I just began is a new maximum security wing. Home for the baddest of the bad. Two men housed in a 6' by 8' cell 23 hours a day is a living hell. If they behave, they get 1 hour a day to shower and exercise in an outdoor cage that is just a little more spacious. It gives a whole new meaning to "Give me liberty or give me death.". It also makes the words "I'm stuck in Folsom Prison until I don't know when" come alive.