Posts by AMOS

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Do you have to be part of organized religion?

by trumind in

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friends

ok. this is my first thread and i am very interested to see the kinds of responses i get.

my question to you all is do you beleive you have to be a member of some type of organized religion in order to have god's approval?

i was raised in jw household, never baptized.

AMOS

Hi Tru, like the others posted so far to your question "to have Jehovah's love"... the answer is no. Jehovah's love was never dependent on being attached to an organised religion. Organised religion is mechanistic, established by men apparently ? to meet its members' needs or to be more ? effective ? efficient? ?? to have control over, and direct the masses by those who ??know better as to what God may want from us.

If I'm not reading too much into it, perhaps your question was "Does God have an organised religion to represent him?" When one becomes a child of God you become part of his family - which is not an organised religion but a relationship with God and of necessity brothers and sisters.

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A Call To Deal With Apostates

by AlanF in

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friends

from the july 1, 2003 watchtower article "righteous requirements":.

.. the kingdom of god is the highest government anyone can serve.

how does jehovah issue the call to his people?

AMOS

When we resigned we received death threats.

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how do i shut a j.w up?

by h2o in

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friends

i know many j.w's and they are allways hassling me with there beliefs and making me feel pretty hacked off at times,is there anything i could say to shut them up or any good questions that they don't like being asked,i assume there are a few ex j.w's on this forum so you must have come across some tricky questions before,hope someone can give some advice?thanks

AMOS

Through questions mainly. When a four scripture sermon starts, after the 1st scripture and then they flip to the 2nd (with a coherent connective sentence naturally) I asked them to go back to the 1st because I can't see the connection with the context of the 1st and what's been read with the 2nd. I continually ask them to outline the context - to whom was it written, etc. I use terms like "but that is not actually what the Bible says, it's your interpretation, now your interpretation may be right and a very good interpretation, I'm not arguing that at the moment, but I just want to see what the Bible in actually says". By this time, they are advising me they don't want to argue with me. I explain I'm not arguing but need clarification, that they appear to me to be jumping from Scripture to Scripture which is not making sense to me and I just need help in seeing the jumps. I haven't had a complete "sermon" yet. It was interesting seeking clarification when I was speaking with a Mormon, (not knowing much at all about their beliefs) and just asking for clarification, pushing his belief to its logical conclusion. He only became pale and sweaty when I asked him "what is his faith if his church disappeared overnight?" I haven't been able to get that far with a dub yet.

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The Truth About Ozziepost and Prisca

by Jang in

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friends

yesterday i had a great time with mr and mrs ozziepost, prisca and dr and mrs loss.

we met at drloss's home and it was really like we had known each other for years.

strangest part was that we all seemed to know the same people (either in or out of the borg).

AMOS

Hi Jang,
Sorry to have missed another Sunday BBQ in downtown Sydney. We will catch up with you again (after 20 years?) some other time. Mr & Mrs Ozziepost have been a source of enjoyment and fun. Cheers

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To all snipers and bombers

by Norm in

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friends

the approach of ex-jehovah's witnesses towards those still witnesses has been debated since the problem first occurred.

personally i joined the ranks of ex-witnesses in 1988 and found myself more or less thrown into the fray appearing in media like newspapers, radio and tv.

one of the first things i noticed was the interest bestowed upon me from competing churches, particularly from the pentecostalism camp.

AMOS

Delighted to hear from you again Norm. Cheers

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how have YOU changed since leaving?

by idaho in

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friends

it's obvious that the sense of freedom is a dominant.

feeling among most persons here, but it would be .

interesting to hear in what way(s) you feel you .

AMOS

When my dfd sister said to my family (all hot head dubs) that I had changed so much for the better,that I was a different person now, I understood about change from within and not from external pressures, losing my heart of stone and replaced with a heart of flesh. Like the rest, a lot less judgmental, less critical, less thinking that I'm right but also much more sensitive to other's feelings including my own. It really cut to the quick when I heard my mother was visiting locally last week, and my only daughter asked to see her (she was 5 when we resigned 20 years ago) my devout JW mother was "too busy" to see her and her 3 great-grand sons whom she has never seen. Are they punishing generation after generation as well now?

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Weather Forecast for Sydney BBQ

by ozziepost in

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friends

fine and windy.

around 20 degrees celsius.

(not bad for mid-winter, eh?).

AMOS

ozziepost!
I'm no apostate - I am a true believer. But a barbie (BBQ for our American brethern) before the summer solstice sounds great.

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Weather Forecast for Sydney BBQ

by ozziepost in

jw
friends

fine and windy.

around 20 degrees celsius.

(not bad for mid-winter, eh?).

AMOS

Hi Mr & Mrs Ozziepost
Trust you had a good and encouraging time glad the gale force winds toned down for you, otherwise you would have had a bonfire under those prawns. Did you marinade them first? By the way, what are you and your missus doing for Xmas? If we have another before Harmagedon, that is.

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