It is an extremely well-written and eloquent letter. You wrote the perfect message! I hope they will respond in a positive way. Best of luck!
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A letter to my parents... tell me what you think.
by Elsewhere inthe other day my mom and dad called (
my mom called a few minutes ago...
) and i have been thinking about sending them a letter in responce.
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DeeeeeeMeeeennnnnzzzz !!??!?!?!?
by ApagaLaLuz inthe recent superstition thread got me to thinking.
growing up i was terrified of "demons".
sometimes when we would have witness gatherings they would start in to "demon" stories.
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My mother-in-law (50+ years a JW) told me that she knew a couple who told her their bed floated across the room one night....with them in it! Well, I just laughed my ass off and said "You don't REALLY believe that, do you?!" I'm sure you all know the reply. So I said "Well they either drank too much soda or watched too much Star Trek" (an odd favorite of the JWs around here...life on other planets, etc.) She did not find my comments amusing.....at all.
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You Blood Sucking Leeches !!!!!!
by Poztate ini hope you didn't take that personally,.
i was watching cnn and they had a segment about how useful leeches were in the treatment of patients who had unclean wounds.
if you applied leeches to the wound they would eat all the pus,blood,clots etc and aid in the healing process.. i seem to recall that a good jw could not use this kind of treatment because it would be wrong to allow a leach to feed on your blood.
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Annoying JW Buzzwords...
by Confucious inhey guys, .
was just wondering what is your worst jw buzzword.
probably all of us hate the "just leave it in jehovah's hands.
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Pioneering
The Truth
The Friends
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....and what's this widespread JW fascination with Star Trek?! Life on other planets?! oh dear. A promiscuous and fornicating crew on the U.S.S. Enterprise...oh my! Doesn't sound like the kind of wholesome entertainment that Jehovah would approve of!
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Advice on Germany Trip
by luna inhey all..... .
it's been awhile since i've posted, but i have a few questions for anyone that lives in, or knows germany very well.
i am going to be flying into frankfurt (as a layover from somewhere else), and i'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions as to what to see, stay, etc.
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Hi Luna!
My brother used to live in Frankfurt and I visited him a few times there. He's a moonie (thought I'd mention that little tid bit) The most memorable thing about my trips was a visit to Heidelberg and Schloss castle. Here is a link that may be helpful:
In Frankfurt try to visit Romerberg Square and some of the beautiful churches in the old town. The transportation system is very efficient in the city and they have something called a Frankfurt Pass thats economically great for tourists. Just hit the first "Information" center you see (they usually have a big i symbol) There you should find an English speaking (if you do not speak German) clerk that will give lots of great tips and info! Have a fun time! Enjoy some Bratwurst!
Rick Steves "Best Of Europe" book has lots of good information on where to stay cheap, transportation, eats etc. Unfortunately the dollar is in the dumper right now so things will be a bit more expensive than they were last year.
I am leaving next week to see my brother. He now resides outside of Berlin. Mixed feelings about my trip (the moonie thing is a downer plus he's a raving fanatic....grrrrrrr) but I'm sure I'll have some fun too! We are renting a car and my bro just told me gas was about $5 a gallon over there (about $75 to fill'er up) Oh well, there goes all of my souvenir money. Have lots of fun and a safe journey! astro_girl
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Jehovah's Witnesses Have a High Mental Illness Level
by Bryan innow we know what the problem is...
scroll down...
jehovah's witnesses"faith of our fathers: part one, were the early christians jehovah's witnesses?
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My JW mother-in-law (50 years) just commented the other day how so many of the "sisters" mind's were going. She has completely lost the ability to make even the smallest decision without a huge production and I am assuming this is because of the mind-control she's been under for most of her life. Her closest "sister" is a hypochondriac who always has some sort of ailment or injury. Both are grossly overweight and never exercise their bodies (just their mouths)
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Can we talk Moonies...please!
by astro_girl inthis is the first thread i have ever started (gulp) i hope i am doing this right!
i am going to see my brother and his family (the moonies) next week (they live in eastern germany) and i just became a bit anxious.
i spoke to my niece (she's 15) on the phone and she told me her uncle (on my brother's wife side, no one else in the family are moonies) has banned my brother from coming on his property.
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Thanks for all the input! I really appreciate the thoughts and advice. I will surely get the Hassan books and I'm sure I'll gain some insight from his experiences. I'm glad I posted this thread even though it's not exactly JW related. I was starting to hyperventilate just thinking about the situation. A few years ago my brother swore to me he would never let his religious beliefs come between us ever again but I think that was what is referred to as a "heavenly deception" to let my guard down. He could never keep that promise the way he is right now.
You are probably right but I feel compelled to go CG, only because I just can't give up on my brother (even though he is extremely frustrating to be with plus I already have the tickets and vacation time set up etc.) I can't think of one other person (friend or family) that thinks it's a good idea for me to go except my husband (and this is just only because he likes bratwurst and German beer...at least he'll be nice and relaxed!) He has a tough skin from being an ex-JW for so many years (many of his family are still JWs) and I think he finds my brother amusing in a way. His motto is "kill the cult with kindness from the heathens!" I suppose it makes sense...except when I want to throttle my brother.
I remember the last time we were there and we all played some board games after dinner. My brother was so determined to win, it was like this "good against evil" thing in his head. He was like a frigging maniac and made the whole thing so totally unenjoyable. When he finally did win a game (the big loser!) it was as if he triumphed over all the demons in the world. Come to think of it we had a similiar experience when we played some trivia games with my husbands JW relatives during a get together. They were all fiercely competitve and were pretty darn smug when they won a few games against the non-JWs. Hmmmm....
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Can we talk Moonies...please!
by astro_girl inthis is the first thread i have ever started (gulp) i hope i am doing this right!
i am going to see my brother and his family (the moonies) next week (they live in eastern germany) and i just became a bit anxious.
i spoke to my niece (she's 15) on the phone and she told me her uncle (on my brother's wife side, no one else in the family are moonies) has banned my brother from coming on his property.
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This is the first thread I have ever started (gulp) I hope I am doing this right!
I am going to see my brother and his family (the moonies) next week (they live in Eastern Germany) and I just became a bit anxious. I spoke to my niece (she's 15) on the phone and she told me her uncle (on my brother's wife side, no one else in the family are moonies) has banned my brother from coming on his property. They had a pretty good relationship (or at least as good as it gets) the last time we were there so I'm assuming that my brother ( aggressive, fanatical ) must have proselytized to him or even worse maybe to his 2 young sons. The uncle did get pissed off when my brother said a prayer aloud before dinner in the name of the "True Parents". after dinner his kids kept asking who their "true parents" are and why does my brother's family pray to them. He in turn asked my brother to pray silently when at family gatherings at his home and I think the issue was resolved. Now we have a drastic situation that really sucks, especially for the kids.
When I visit my brother we sometimes end up at odds because he becomes hostile and nasty if you don't listen to all he has to say about his "religion". My husband (who is an ex-JW) just lets it roll off his back. He acts mildly interested and then changes the subject. I really admire that in him because when my bro starts with the moonie crap I bristle up and become very defensive. I know that's the worst thing I can do. It's a reaction I have a hard time controlling.
My brother has been a moonie for almost 30 years now and was married at a mass marriage in Madison Square Garden (I went, it was weird!) He graduated college with a degree in psychology but applied too late for the med school he wanted so he took off for a year on a fateful cross country trip. He was "recruited" in San Francisco and went to live in a Moon front youth commune. My parents freaked, wanted to "deprogram" him but didn't have the money (since they just put the butt-head through college) He came home after many months with a dazed look and glazed over eyes and he would chant aloud in the backyard at night. I would watch him from my window and wonder "what the f*ck is he doing?!" I still wonder that today. How can they believe in this meglomaniac fraud of man and his dysfunctional family?! One of Moon's kids sadly commited suicide by jumping out of a Las Vegas hotel window. Another was a cocaine addict and wife beater. Moon showers himself and his family with incredible luxuries off the profits and "fund-raising" for his church while most of his followers live hand to mouth. I remember awhile back my brother was saving jelly jars because they could not afford to buy drinking glasses...and he was running a Moon church!
BTW, does anyone know how much Moon makes on these mass marriages?! Well, the last time my bro tried to convince me to renew my wedding vows via Moonie mass marriage satellite, the going rate was $3000 per couple. Hmmmm...20,000 x $3000 = Holy Crap!! Moon claims to be the New Messiah and boasts he is doing a "better job than Jesus did". He's obviously crazy! It's scary just how much property and wealth Moon has aquired. He has thousands of moonie front businesses world-wide and he has bought a few colleges! Now recruiting will be really easy! He has big political pull too (Bush for one, and there was Reagan and Nixon!) He recently moved into South America (bought up huge amounts of land there and sports teams) plus he is now sending large pilgrimages over to the middle east to recruit. My brother just came back from one. Says he has plenty of pix to show me and will I come on the next pilgrimage (ughhh!) Oh well, I guess I just wanted to vent. Thanks to anyone who reads this. I hope I come back from my trip with my sanity intact! astro_girl
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My brother is a JW, and I love him.
by earpick18 inmy name is sara, and my older brother is a jehovah's witness.
i stumbled this website when i was feeling upset about my brother's association with jws.
i just wanted to thank you so much for creating a website like this.
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Hi Sara and welcome! I'm a newbie too!
I have many relatives on my husbands side of the family that are JWs. This site helped me to understand their mentality and beliefs and basically what a bunch of lies they are entrenched in. You will benefit immensely from reading the posts here. They will give you stength, hope and the ability to deal with your brother's "religion".
I love my older brother too. My situation is a bit different from yours but here is a quick summary of it. He became a moonie about 30 years ago and I have tried to keep a good relationship with him but as you know with any high control group, it's a very delicate situation. He was married in a mass wedding that I attended and then he moved overseas to convert vulnerable people in unstable Eastern European countries. I am going to visit him in a few weeks and as always he will try to convert me. He is very aggressive and we usually end up fighting because I can't seem to keep my big mouth shut when he starts proselytizing (but I will do my best to contain myself this time) I always have a hope that he will burst out of his hazy bubble and see reality one day. I wish you good luck with your brother. Be patient, always let him know you love him and hang in there! He is so lucky to have a sister like you! Astro-Girl
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Here is a good one
by painterguy ingo to http//:www.google.com type in the search bar weapons of mass destruction then click on the i'm feeling lucky bar, read the whole page.
someone at google must of really been bored but this is so true and it's funny too.
it will come up an error page but read it all anyways you will get a kick out of it...
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Hey painterguy!
Thanks for the post! That was funny as hell and we all had a good laugh! Have a nice weekend!
Astro_Girl