tons of JWs in Africa. Been in Africa for almost six years now, this is where the real growth is. It's embarassing to see what they call Kingdom Halls here, and then go the US and hear wits complain about the AC not being cold enough, or the chairs being uncomfortable. When I was a wit, I used to go to a KH where we sat on wooden slats, had no AC, got eaten alive by mosquitos, half the time we had no electricity, would sit in the dark, sing in the dark (all of the brothers had the songs memorized, it was really something else), etc. My time in Africa went a long ways towards showing me the truth about this hypocritical organization.
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JW's in Africa TODAY - aargrgghh
by dh injeeez, who'd have thought it, you travel for days to the other side of the world, get jetlagged & hang out for a week, then go to do your laundry and... lo an behold i see in the laundrette, my book of bible stories, family happiness, green new world translation, as i recover from the shock and nervous laughter, i ask the african lady working 'who put these books there', she says 'the owner' hmmm, i think, i better not bin them, so i open the my book of bible stories & guess what it says.... "if you like this book please leave your name at the counter.".
ha ha ha.
you can run but you can't hide.. live from africa
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Just In: Unofficial Poll Results - JWD Voters vs. 60 Minutes Report
by bisous inlast sunday, 60 minutes made the following religious vs. voter affiliation report:.
2/3rds of churchgoers vote republican while 2/3rds of non-churchgoers vote democrat.
i posted an unofficial poll for jwd posters in order to compare and contrast.
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fader
non-church going independent here.
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FlyingHighNow -- please read
by fader inheather:.
i tried replying to your e-mail and i wasn't able to.. please check out the website www.careers.state.gov.
it has all the information you need.
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fader
Heather:
I tried replying to your e-mail and I wasn't able to.
Please check out the website www.careers.state.gov. It has all the information you need. Click on the 'Register for the Foreign Service Exam' button.
Let me know if you need more help,
Lucia
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If You Found A Wallet----Would You Turn It In??
by minimus inwould you have to think about it??
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I found a purse once by the side of the road. The woman had left it on top of her car. I used the address on her license, drover over and returned the purse to her. I brought my then 2 year old son with me, hoping it would be some sort of life lesson about the right thing to do. The woman opened the door, I told her I found her purse, she said 'oh, thanks' and closed the door. I was suprised, I wasn't expecting money or anything, but perhaps a bit more gratitude, an offer to come in and have a drink, I don't know. Oh well, I'm glad I did it, I'd do it again. If someone found my purse and returned it to me intact, I'd definitely offer them some sort of cash reward, 20 bucks maybe?
If I found a winning lottery ticket, I'd wait to see if anyone claimed it (like recently happened). If not, I'd cash it in.
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Survivor All Stars
by Stacy Smith inok i've been too busy to come around here much but it's thursday and tonight is the second edition of survivor all stars.
i honestly was surprised to see tina voted off first.
the website poll says richard hatch is the favorite to go next.
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fader
If posters can be considerate with their subjects and others can be judicious about which topics they open, I don't see why we need to stop discusssing this type of stuff.
Just check the subject of a post and avoid reading these types of threads. The rest of us need to make sure that we are clear in our subjects about the stuff being discussed : And not have a subject like : Rudy wins Survivor All-Stars, or something like that.
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*fluff* very cute
by fader inmy mom, a jw, sent this to me.
church.
egg and asked the children, "what's in here?
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fader
My mom, a JW, sent this to me. Some of these are kind of cute.
fader
3-year-old, Reese: "Our Father, Who does art in
heaven, Harold is His name." " Amen"
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A little boy was overheard praying: "Lord, if you
can't make me a better boy, don't worry about it. I'm
having a real good time like I am."
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A Sunday school class was studying the Ten
Commandments. They were ready to discuss the last one.
The teacher asked if anyone could tell her what it
was. Susie raised her hand, stood tall, and quoted,
"Thou shall not take the covers off the neighbor's
wife."
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After the christening of his baby brother in church,
Jason sobbed all the way home in the back seat of the
car. His father asked him three times what was wrong.
Finally, the boy replied, "That preacher said he
wanted us brought up in a Christian home, and I wanted
to stay with you guys."
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I had been teaching my three-year old daughter,
Caitlin, the Lord's Prayer for several evenings at
bedtime, she would repeat after me the lines from the
prayer. Finally, she decided to go solo. I listened
with pride as she carefully enunciated each word,
right up to the end of the prayer: "Lead us not into
temptation," she prayed, "but deliver us some E-mail.
Amen."
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..and one particular four-year-old prayed, "And
forgive us our trash baskets as we forgive those who
put trash in our baskets."
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A Sunday school teacher asked her children, as they
were on the way to church service, "And why is it
necessary to be quiet in church? One bright little
girl replied, "Because people are sleeping."
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Six-year-old Angie and her four-year-old brother Joel
were sitting together in church. Joel giggled, sang,
and talked out loud. Finally, his big sister had had
enough. "You're not supposed to talk out loud in
church." "Why? Who's going to stop me?" Joel asked.
Angie pointed to the back of the church and said, "See
those two men standing by the door?
They're hushers."
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A mother was preparing pancakes for her sons, Kevin,
5, Ryan,3. The boys began to argue over who would get
the first pancake. Their mother saw the opportunity
for a moral lesson. "If Jesus were sitting here, He
would say, 'Let my brother have the
first pancake, I can wait.'" Kevin turned to his
younger brother and said, "Ryan, you be Jesus!"
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A father was at the beach with his children when the
four-year-old son ran up to him, grabbed his hand, and
led him to the shore, where a seagull lay dead in the
sand. "Daddy, what happened to him?" the son asked.
"He died and went to Heaven," the Dad replied. The boy
thought then said, "Did God throw him back down?"
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A wife invited some people to dinner. At the table,
she turned to their six-year-old daughter - "Would you
like to say the blessing?" "I wouldn't know what to
say," the girl replied. "Just say what you hear Mommy
say," the wife answered. The daughter bowed her head
and said, "Lord, why on earth did I invite all these
people to dinner?"
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It was Palm Sunday and, because of a sore throat,
five-year-old Johnny stayed home from church with a
sitter. When the family returned home, they were
carrying several palm branches. The boy asked what
they were for. "People held them over Jesus' head as
he walked by," his older brother explained.
"Wouldn't you know it," the boy fumed. "The one Sunday
I don't go, He showed up!"
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One Easter Sunday morning as the minister was
preaching the children's sermon, he reached into his
bag of props and pulled out an egg. He pointed at the
egg and asked the children, "What's in here?"
"I know!" a little boy! exclaimed. "Pantyhose!"
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The prospective father-in-law asked, "Young man, can
you support a family?"
The surprised groom-to-be replied, "Well, no. I was
just planning to support your daughter. The rest of
you will have to fend for yourselves."
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A little boy in church for the first time watched as
the ushers passed around the offering plates. When
they came near his pew, the boy said loudly, "Don't
pay for me Daddy. I'm under five."
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During my brother's wedding, my mother managed to keep
from crying until she glanced at my grandparents. My
grandmother had reached over to my grandfather's
wheelchair and gently touched his hand. That was all
it took to start my mother's tears flowing.
After the wedding, Mom went over to my grandmother and
told her How that tender gesture triggered her
outburst. "Well, I'm sorry to ruin your moment,"
Grandmother replied, "but I was just checking to see
if he was still alive."
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"Oh, I sure am happy to see you," the little boy said
to his grandmother on his mother's side. "Now maybe
Daddy will do the trick he has been promising us."
The grandmother was curious. "What trick is that?" she
asked.
"I heard him tell Mommy," the little boy answered,
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Is it harder for ladies to apologize?
by onintwo inyesterday i had a little spat with my wife.
it's all cleared up today.
she's a wonderful gal and we love each other very much.. but one thing kinda bugs me.
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I think, like others here, that it depends on the individual. I apologize more often than my husband, even when I feel I was right. I dislike the tension our arguments create, and I can get mean during arguments sometimes.
Rich has a hard time apologizing, but I don't have to hear I'm sorry to realize he feels it. He generally does something kind, like take the kids and give me a break, or make me tea or something kind. His actions tell me he's sorry.
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religious or secular?
by fader ini have never been a religious person, despite being raised as a witness and going through the motions.
now that i'm out, i'm not a religious person at all.
i don't believe in god, i think there is some sort of higher power, but i'm just not that concerned with learning anything about it.
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Nina:
I really found your observations fascinating. My son, Peter, is 5 years old, and despite the fact that my husband and I have not given him any formal religious training (much to the chagrin of my JW mom) he is intensely interested in God. He's been to the KH maybe 10 times, many of those when he was too young to even remember it, he went to his 'worldly' grandfather's funeral, and I found out that at his private British school they said grace before lunch, but basically other than that no exposure whatsoever to religion. And yet, he always says things that shock me -- like asking to pray before a meal (he's seen my parents do it at their house, and he does it at school), or he'll ask me what God would think about something or other.
I really am starting to think that this is sort of like the old homosexuality debate: is it innate or learned? I think faith and being religious just might be innate and I wasn't born with it.
Lucia
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religious or secular?
by fader ini have never been a religious person, despite being raised as a witness and going through the motions.
now that i'm out, i'm not a religious person at all.
i don't believe in god, i think there is some sort of higher power, but i'm just not that concerned with learning anything about it.
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fader
I have never been a religious person, despite being raised as a Witness and going through the motions. Now that I'm out, I'm not a religious person at all. I don't believe in god, I think there is some sort of higher power, but I'm just not that concerned with learning anything about it. I just have no 'spiritual need', as my mother says.
I have noticed though that many on this board are still religious/spiritual people, despite having been severely burnt in some cases.
How is it that I, raised by intensely religious people, have turned out that way I have? Why do some have 'faith'? I don't mean to be rude or offend anyone, but I just don't believe. I can't believe. Despite trying hard to believe, wanting to believe, I never could.
Any thoughts? Anybody have a similar experience?
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SOME PEOPLE CONSIDER JWS A NUISANCE
by badboy in.
i understand from 1 of mum's friends that in a certain road near the kh that people have put notices saying they don't want jws knocking on their door etc.. also 1 persons has put on (their door?
) asking them`y r u persecuting me by knocking on my door' sort of things etc with newspaper cuttings on her door.. did something similiar happen in your area?
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fader
In Italy, the Catholic Church gave out these stickers to people to put on their doors saying Jehovah's Witnesses weren't welcome. I remember going to see my grandma and telling her that I would not visit her anymore because she put up the sticker. What a fuc&ing idiot I was.
Wow, that just brought back so many emotions. I miss my grandma.