bradford
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Lett's Historic Moment
by Icarus inwith all the furor over the jw's cash strapped pleas, i'm surprised no one noticed a different issue with this broadcast.
it was historic!
yes, all 7 of the gb have broadcast in the 7 months of the channel's existence!
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What does 8 signify? Not complete enough? How come they didn't talk about the significance of the sixth episode. I thought that episode was historically found insufficient. -
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Kingdom Hall loans Cancelled? Lurkers...please read
by ToesUp ini hope that writing this, there will be some lurkers that i can shake.. if you have not listened to mays tv broadcast, please do.
it may wake some up.. note @ around 21-22 minutes into the broadcast lett brings up the the kingdom halls/assembly hall loans have been cancelled and the congregation can now send in what they can afford.
wow...how many banks would do that?.
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Pete - you got most of it but missed some.
After you start donating your time (valuable things) to become a beloved pioneer, eating Raman noodles and pbj sandwiches, paying for your own fuel, all while working a part time job because higher education is demonic, you have to be guilted into donating your first fruits (the best, and potentially all you have) because the work is speeding up so much and the wise slave class doesn't know how to get by.
And, remember, the GB is not soliciting. They are merely making the rank and file (aka the ones with jobs and income) AWARE of the non-statistically supported statements that their is this huge need for funds.
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Kingdom Hall loans Cancelled? Lurkers...please read
by ToesUp ini hope that writing this, there will be some lurkers that i can shake.. if you have not listened to mays tv broadcast, please do.
it may wake some up.. note @ around 21-22 minutes into the broadcast lett brings up the the kingdom halls/assembly hall loans have been cancelled and the congregation can now send in what they can afford.
wow...how many banks would do that?.
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Few will wake up from this. As earth-shatteringly redonculous as this sounds, witnesses world wide will prayerfully figure a way to contribute more for a few months out of their hard earned money. Then, in a new broadcast, Tony will praise the way the flock has responded as the needs financially are being met "all to Jehovah's praise."
In about 6 months they will ask the flock to re-watch this episode, or will get a letter to all bodies of elders to watch this segment in place of a meeting.
I wish it would wake up a whole mess of people but who are we kidding. This cult stuff works.
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OMG... what happened in a bar today
by leaving_quietly inso, i'm sitting in a bar, having a drink.
the bar participates in taptv, an online trivia thing.
the question that came up was, "what did jehovah's witnesses call themselves before 1931".
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It is like any pyramid program except you make no money. You lose money. You don't actually get people to buy what you are selling either. You push it on family and they start selling it. Success stories of those using the product are basically the same as the weight loss supplements with doctored photos. I almost got into isagenix recently and noticed the cult like similarities. Fun times. -
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Seriously condsidering disasscoiating
by Ashley L. ini am seriously considering disassociating myself.
i want to do this because i no longer consider myself one of jehovah's witnesses.
i no longer consider jehovah as my god and i am in a new religion now.
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For me personally I thought about three possible solutions and there three outcomes.
1. Fade and don't get caught doing something that could get you DFd.
This option you keep your family and friends for time. You basically associate with new people and try to make sure you don't get caught up in anything. Witnesses will try to encourage you from time to time. You send mixed signals to those who don't know the truth about your wake up. You essentially play by their rules by fading for a small period of time. People will think you are stressed, depressed, and weak for slowing down and becoming inactive.
2. Fade and live your life.
Same as above except you aren't going to let it stop you from living life to the fullest. People will still think you are depressed, weak, etc. Eventually you get caught doing something like a holiday photo online or something and you get summoned to a meeting, eventually getting disfellowshipped. Or you move away from the congregation area and live happily ever after.
3. Write a letter to disassociate.
I told my friends all personally why I was leaving. I then wrote the letter to the elders because I have no kids or family besides my mother that are witnesses. I wasn't concerned with losing friends because I would lose them all eventually anyways when they decided I'm bad association. People will still think I'm crazy, depressed, prideful, demonic, etc. But we will all know the at I stood up for what I believe. And I feel like I can move on.
Ultimately, different things work for different people based on their circumstances. Be patient and think far in advance.
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"Evidence" of a "smokelike pall"... This was the last straw for me back in 2008. Fade began with this:
by DarioKehl infrom that nutty red book of insanity, the grand climax at hand book, chapter 22, paragraphs 7 & 8. .
i had my doubts since childhood.
i went along with it to please people.
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They will most likely discontinue the disc library version and put a negative spin on researching old light. Then they will focus attention to the online library. They will use a line like:
"Since 2000 Jehovah has truly sped up the work! As he blesses the "faithful slave" he also continues to refine. As such, all of our literature from 2000 onward shows the true light Jehovah has revealed in our time. The online library will be our primary research tool and is updated with all literature as it is released in real time on wol.jw.org. The old library by disc will be discontinued. Research that could be done there should now be done online. Jehovah loves those who follow this arrangement. "
Throw a couple scriptures in there and a warm Christian love signature, send to all elders to read at the next meeting. Old light basically obsolete.
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Huge Shift in Doctrine?
by Lemonp ini am not sure why more people aren't talking about this?.
the march 15 study edition of the wt has some major changes!
- all unbiblical "types and antitypes" are now dropped.
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Does this basically erase Fred Franz from existence? Wasn't he the main writer of all these "types?" -
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Another "reaching out" guilt trip this weekend, apparently.
by OneEyedJoe ini just got word that the brothers of my congregation is "encouraged to attend a special meeting" this saturday.
i was told to bring the od book, and the 9/15/14 and 4/15/15 study wts.
judging by the articles in those, it's going to be another guilt trip to get all us dead-beat kids in our 20s and 30s to "reach out" to be jr. cult leaders.
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Actually it is probably the elders trying a last ditch effort to tell the CO they were doing a great job of training the brothers for additional privileges of service. #fail -
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Who REALLY believed in the idea of living forever on earth??
by stuckinarut2 inseriously.....even when you were 100% in "the truth", did you really believe in living forever?
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I think we all tried as hard as we could to believe it, but many had this creeping doubt. I remember I used to reason with my non-witness dad:
"Let's say it is all made up and we wont live forever on a paradise earth. Would living a moral and clean life that helps people be a terrible thing?"
Turns out yes..yes it is terrible thing. Good thing he never listened to me.
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In Case Witnesses Didn't know..............
by The Searcher inwatchtower july 15 2015 p.11 pars.
"your share in contributing to the spiritual paradise".
18 it is an honor to be allowed by jehovah to contribute to the beauty of our spiritual paradise.we do that by zealously preaching the kingdom good news and making more disciples.
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I think paragraph 8 is more baffling.
Watchtower July 15 2015, pargraph 8, p. 8.
8 We find Paul’s vision described at 2 Corinthians 12:1-4. (Read.)What Paul saw in a supernatural vision was referred to as a revelation. It involved a future event, not something that existed in his day. When Paul “was caught away to the third heaven,” what “paradise” did he see? The paradise that Paul spoke about would have a physical, a spiritual, and a heavenly fulfillment, all of which will coexist in the future. It can refer to the physical, earthly Paradise yet to come. (Luke 23:43) It can also refer to the spiritual paradise that will be experienced to the full in the new world. Additionally, it can refer to the blessed conditions in heaven in “the paradise of God.”—Rev. 2:7.
How did I proudly eat this stuff up before, and THEN regurgitate it at the WT study all proud of my wonderful comprehension skills. Excuse me while I go puke.