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  GB Split Over Bible vs. Policy

  by Maximus in

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  please read the following brief paragraph carefully: .

  "once again, the ruling ecclesiastical class suppressed efforts to make gods word available to their flock.

  they violently silenced a voice that pointed to some of the errors of their non-biblical beliefs.

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  Too bad they didn't make this article into a drama. "Kill Those Who Deviate from Truth."

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  Questions and Answers

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  questions and answers.

  should dissidence exist among dedicated jehovahs witnesses?

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  Sure would like to see more discussion on this one.

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  Questions and Answers

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  questions and answers.

  should dissidence exist among dedicated jehovahs witnesses?

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  Really thoughtful post, voltaire.

  Gives you new insight into the days when the Aid to Bible Understanding book was being developed and WHY the need was seen to mould real Christians, by nourishing them.

  Rules are for children, principles are for adults.

  We are being treated like children. When truth is not one's own, but merely a reflection of another's conclusions, watch out. Not a very stable springboard for the organization.

  Can't wait to get the marvelous new tool that is sure to be a dumbed-down TM School--several years down the road.

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  Questions and Answers

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  questions and answers.

  should dissidence exist among dedicated jehovahs witnesses?

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  The dilemma I have faced for a very long time is simple but has painful ramifications to me personally.

  Horn One: I go to the DC, hear it plainly stated that the top end of the hierarchy is made up of imperfect men. When "errors are made" and later pointed out--happens over and over--we are quick to say, "Well, just goes to show you, they are imperfect men. Jehovah has always used imperfect men, you know."

  Horn Two: On pain of the ground swallowing up to kill me, I am expected to behave as though these men are infallible. There is no SEPARATE "faithful slave" that is perfect. It is these same imperfect men!

  Now just who can I talk to? I may have some good persons in my congregation with whom I can let down my hair, but even that is hazardous. I have not seen for a very long time a circuit or district overseer with whom I would dare talk, although friends may pinpoint a particular person as being more "understanding." Who would you dare tell that you do not believe the Bible prohibits saving a pregnant mother's life when she is bleeding to death and TWO lives are at stake? Happened. Blood was secretly given.

  This stifling attitude of squelching all personal thought is killing the organization and does nothing to form a mature Christian man or woman.

  "The Medieval Church would have loved this." That's pretty good.

  What next? Loyalty oaths? Another Inquisition? The Iron Maiden?

  Any way you cut it, the JW attempting to be loyal is TORTURED.
  
  
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  Why believe Revelation or Last Days?

  by Seeker in

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  those of us who used to be jws, i have a question for you: why would any of us think revelation has anything to say about the 21st century, or that we are in the last days period?.

  when we left the jws, we did so because of their false teachings.

  we saw through their faulty reasoning about why we are in the last days.

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  <The most recent dating due to new technology is that it was written PRIOR to 70CE.>

  I'm sincerely interested in the new TECHNOLOGY you mention, because life-time experts current in this field have not come to this conclusion. One man's opinion is one thing, technology is another.

  Gantry is the next step beyond Dispensationalism for Evangelicals, and if his arguments are correct, that leaves LaHaye and company in their current books out on a limb. This would be revolutionary.

  My problem is with groups or individuals who get very narrow and exclusive, saying only they have found truth. Gives me the shivvers because of my background with the Watchtower society.

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  Why believe Revelation or Last Days?

  by Seeker in

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  those of us who used to be jws, i have a question for you: why would any of us think revelation has anything to say about the 21st century, or that we are in the last days period?.

  when we left the jws, we did so because of their false teachings.

  we saw through their faulty reasoning about why we are in the last days.

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  :: Revalation was written in the mid 60's of the 1st Century. It was written in apocolptic language, and was fulfilled with the destruction of Jerusalem.

  This is not the case at all, has nothing to do with Jerusalem's demise. Please check any standard textbook. The Revelation was completed A.D. 96-102, depending on which one you pick. A very different set of circumstances obtained AFTER the destruction of Jerusalem.

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  The Demise and Fall of the Water Vapor Canopy

  by VM44 in

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  as some of you here might recall, i am currently .

  researching isaac n. vail and his annular ring theory.. an interesting article which some of you may like to read is.

  "the demise and fall of the water vapor canopy: a fallen.

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  Neither does Rex B, whom I am twitting.

  You've apparently missed the joys of his non-informative posts about dispensational theology, but they are so boringly mediocre they would put you to sleep at this hour. Check the AlanF and toadies thread.

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  Why believe Revelation or Last Days?

  by Seeker in

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  those of us who used to be jws, i have a question for you: why would any of us think revelation has anything to say about the 21st century, or that we are in the last days period?.

  when we left the jws, we did so because of their false teachings.

  we saw through their faulty reasoning about why we are in the last days.

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  The Funny-mentalist above doesn't seem to know the centuries-long academic discussions about the book of Revelation and its very bad Greek, as to whether it should have squeaked into the Canon.

  Let's not tell him about Martin Luther's view of Revelation. Shhhhhhh.

  Ooops! Forgot. ML was one of those religious types 'who knew just a little to get into trouble and not enough to get out.' Everybody is wrong but Rex, whose bloodthirsty "Christian" spirit peeks through now and then.

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  The Demise and Fall of the Water Vapor Canopy

  by VM44 in

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  as some of you here might recall, i am currently .

  researching isaac n. vail and his annular ring theory.. an interesting article which some of you may like to read is.

  "the demise and fall of the water vapor canopy: a fallen.

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  You fail to point out, sir, out that this is pre-Dispensation Uno, according to Phillips. Lee-roy Phillips. Or maybe it was Jodie Phillips, educated at Okefenokee U.

  Anyways, you should have read the England-educated Phillips which most truly and certainly would have explained everything very clearly. Really.

  Please learn to cut and paste properly, you Philistine!

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  "Blood IsThicker Than Dogma" (ARTICLE)

  by sf in

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  a recent article in theguardian by james king:.

  < http://www.guardianunlimited.co.uk/archive/article/0,4273,4040618,00.html.

  (hope the link works).

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  James King, a former Jehovah's Witness, writes about religious cults

  James King
  Guardian

  Saturday July 15, 2000

  Em, this is a year old, sKally.