Concerned Mama,
You make an excellent point.
sometimes when i go visit my mother, she mentions that i was a good kid because i was raised by bible principles.
i was crying for absolutely no reason at all.
around 11:30, i felt completely ill. i went up to my teacher and told him i was going to see the nurse.
Concerned Mama,
You make an excellent point.
as i've said before i'm very lost and torn and confused.
part of me still believes in the things that i was taught as a jw.
1. armageddon.
Hi! It's me again. As I've said before I'm very lost and torn and confused. Part of me still believes in the things that I was taught as a JW. But some I don't.
1. Armageddon. Is it fair that millions of children are killed before they even get a chance to think for themselves? Is fair that they pay for their parents "mistakes" through death?
2. The flood. If god destroyed the earth then, Why didn't he just start all over then. Wasn't Noah proof enough that people would serve him regardless?
3. The fact that the organization had a beginning. Meaning if it's the true religion why did it have to just start? I mean wouldn't it have continued on and on and never stopped or started?
4. The fact that so many things are controlled from watching Soap operas to buying a two door car.
5. The disfellowshipping process.
But there are many things that I liked and loved about it.
1. I always had something to do.
2. I used to have a riot in field service. Boy I could tell you some stories.
3. My hall was like watching comedy central. Honestly, the brothers were hilarious on stage.
4. The love. Everyone loved me. I got along with everyone. I mean I was so exemplary that people would have me hang out with their kids to help them and give them someone to look up to. And I loved them all too! I really did.
5. I felt as though I had a purpose. I was going somewhere in life. I don't now. I just don't.
Now I'm going to go back to #4 of the good things about the truth and one more to the bad things. The EXTREME guilt. Because I was so well liked and people looked up to me. I felt bad when I did things that were "wrong"
Then there's my mom. I love that woman so much!! I miss her. And I know that me not being in the truth right now is hurting her bad. Very bad. She deals with major depression. It's causing her so much anxiety. I wouldn't even want to be the last person to cause her anxiety and right now I'm number one. so there's guilt with that.
I'm so confused.
i am a good for nothing slave.
if you can tell me where that scripture is located i would appreciate it.
now, what does that scripture mean to you?
Carmel,
Is this a specific religion or something. Or something that you thought of? I realized I sound very smart-mouthy so just to let you know that I am NOT trying to sound that way AT ALL. I am really curious.
sometimes when i go visit my mother, she mentions that i was a good kid because i was raised by bible principles.
i was crying for absolutely no reason at all.
around 11:30, i felt completely ill. i went up to my teacher and told him i was going to see the nurse.
Well all in all it depends on the individual. I definitely have a wild side. Since I've been disfellowshipped I've definitely let that out. Sometimes a little too much. But because I'm older I have the ability to be responsible with my wildness (sounds like an oxy-moron doesn't it?) What I mean is that if my mother didn't raise me the way that she did teaching me bible principles and showing me the way I should live my life who knows where I would be today. I mean what if I started doing these things at the age of 14 when my "worldly friends" did. I mean I know people that were having sex, doing drugs and getting pregnant all things I wasn't ready for at the age of 14. Heck, I'm 24 and I still don't think I'm ready.
To the girl that was upset that people made the remarks about her "being the nicest worldly girl" honestly it was a compliment. I mean apparently you felt that the witnesses were good people because it seems that you made a habit of hanging out with them. And even though it doesn't mean that EVERYONE in the "world" is evil. There are things that happen among youths that are much more rampant than among the youths in the truth. Not saying that these things don't happen because they definitely do. But I think that the way I was raised by my mother was a good way because it does teach you good qualities and how to respect others.
Here's an example. I live in an apartment. There are only four apartments. Someone was moving in and guess what time they decided to move in? 10 at night!!!! So there are doors slamming. Things being dragged across the floor etc etc. Ok that was strike number 1 with this person. 2. We don't have assigned parking or anything and because there are basically only 4 of us in the building we've basically made our parking spaces. We all always park in the same spot. Well this new person comes in and guess where they decide to park? My spot!. Now I guess I should let it go but it's the principles involved. When you come to a new place and you see a car parked in the same spot all the time why would you park there?GRRRRR. Strike 3 was last night. Our garbage day was yesterday. I didn't get out of work yesterday until 8 by the time I got home I looked out to the street and there was a garbage can. But I noticed that someone had already taken theres back up from the street. Guess who's it was. The new persons. Now this is one of my biggest peeves. If you're on the street already getting your can where is the harm in getting the ONE other can that sitting next to yours and taking it up? I would have done that for her. I wouldn't move in at 10 at night through the week. I wouldn't take her parking spot!!!!!! The point of this is this woman claims to be Christian. She had her church move her in. Because when I was woken up by a slamming door at 10:30 I looked outside and there was the family church van outside my building. And she has Jesus themed stickers on her car. How can you claim to be Christian and be so insensitive? (As you can tell I'm not happy with this person at all)
Whew! I quite rambled here. But anyway. I hope you all get my point. :)
Joy
whew*....i finally registered, and guess what?!
it wasnt as hard as i thought it would be lol.
i've been lurking here, quietly and observing the board for about 2 years now.
Steve,
I've been on this site for about a week now. I'm here because I am confused but honestly the more I come to this site the more bogus I feel that it is. It actually makes me believe in the TRUTH even more it really does. Like I said earlier I'm sorry that you guys ran into bad situations in the truth but when you run into bad situations in the world where are you going to go then?
on the night before my wedding, my mom came into my room with the talk.
she said she knew i probably knew all about the wedding night, but did i have any questions?
she then told me to remember one thing tho...that you aren't to touch it.
Ok...here's another peeve of mine!! It's not just JW's that come up with some of the silly stuff. "Worldly" people come up with some pretty wacky stuff too. Why is it everything that was said and done by someone in the organization is blamed on the fact that they were JW's?
i've read bits and peices....will someone elaborate for me please?
I've read bits and peices....Will someone elaborate for me please?
whew*....i finally registered, and guess what?!
it wasnt as hard as i thought it would be lol.
i've been lurking here, quietly and observing the board for about 2 years now.
hahaha...This really does crack me up. People knock on JW's for telling people not to talk to other religions or apostates etc. And here you guys are doing the exact same thing. Where is the benefit for her not meeting with the elders. In fact, she will only make matters worse for herself because eventually she will be talking to them so she may as well just get it over with if it's really going to be that agonizing.
whew*....i finally registered, and guess what?!
it wasnt as hard as i thought it would be lol.
i've been lurking here, quietly and observing the board for about 2 years now.
Ok. Everyone is going to hate me for this. But as you all know I'm on the fence of where I want to go.
If you feel so strongly about how you feel about the organization, why are you hesitant to meet with the elders? Everyone knows that they aren't there to gang up on you. I'm sorry that everyone here has had so many bad experiences with the elders. I'm truly sorry. But they aren't all like that. Anyway, Why aren't you ready to get disfellowshipped? I guess I can understand considering you are only 16 and you have your grandmother to deal with. But again if you feel so strongly about your feelings isn't that for the best? As far as calling child protective services or the police or a FREAKIN' lawyer. Come on! you know that is so not necessary. So not necessary. Are you being abused? I'm sure you're not and truth is no matter what kind of family we grow up we all were abused in some form or way. But is it really enough to have child protective services called and risk you being taken away from mother and your grandmother and being put in some home where you don't know the people and who knows what kind of ABUSE you'd go through with that. I'm sorry you didn't have friends your age in your hall. That sucks big time. you do seem like a bright girl. I think you should just step back take an honest and serious look at your situation and figure out if it's really as bad as it seems. Because we don't know the whole story. But you do.
Love me!!!!!
i remember when i was an active witness, how i tried to convert my parents to the jw religion.
my father said that he knew that the witnesses were wrong because they didn't believe that jesus was god all mighty.
going door to door and speaking to people of other religions, the hardest thing was to make people understand that only jehovah was god, and that jesus was only an angel.
Or even the logically reasons. "No one can see God and yet live" Jesus was on earth so how is he going to be God? Or when Jesus was praying to God. Why would he need to pray to himself?