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  Did You "Wait" On Jehovah or Did You "Run Ahead"?

  by minimus in

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  were you ever counseled for "running ahead of jehovah's organization?".

  did you have to be told that you needed to "wait on jehovah"?.

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  Cheetos

  Minimus it dose no good send letters to those bafoons, they just send back formated replys. I am so glad I am no longer absorbed with Landrew.
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  The Judicial committee is basically a kangaroo court or kangaroo trial

  by Cheetos in

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  2. beliefs

  a kangaroo court or kangaroo trial, sometimes likened to a drumhead court-martial or drumhead trial, is a sham legal proceeding or court.

  kangaroo courts are judicial proceedings that deny due process rights in the name of expediency.

  such rights include the right to summon witnesses, the right of cross-examination, the right not to incriminate oneself, the right not to be tried on secret evidence, the right to control one's own defense, the right to exclude evidence that is improperly obtained, irrelevant or inherently inadmissible (e.g.

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  Cheetos

  I thought I lost this thread so sent it twice, thank you all my absorbed ones.
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  The Judicial committee is basically a kangaroo court or kangaroo trial

  by Cheetos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a kangaroo court or kangaroo trial, sometimes likened to a drumhead court-martial or drumhead trial, is a sham legal proceeding or court.

  kangaroo courts are judicial proceedings that deny due process rights in the name of expediency.

  such rights include the right to summon witnesses, the right of cross-examination, the right not to incriminate oneself, the right not to be tried on secret evidence, the right to control one's own defense, the right to exclude evidence that is improperly obtained, irrelevant or inherently inadmissible (e.g.

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  Cheetos

  A kangaroo court or kangaroo trial, sometimes likened to a drumhead court-martial or Drumhead trial, is a sham legal proceeding or court. Kangaroo courts are judicial proceedings that deny due process rights in the name of expediency. Such rights include the right to summon witnesses, the right of cross-examination, the right not to incriminate oneself, the right not to be tried on secret evidence, the right to control one's own defense, the right to exclude evidence that is improperly obtained, irrelevant or inherently inadmissible (e.g. hearsay), the right to exclude judges or jurors on the grounds of partiality or conflict of interest, and the right of appeal. The outcome of a trial by "kangaroo court" is essentially determined in advance, usually for the purpose of providing a conviction, either by going through the motions of manipulated procedure or by allowing no defense at all.The term is often applied to courts subjectively judged as such, while others consider the court to be legitimate and legal. A kangaroo court may be a court that has had its integrity compromised; for example, if the judge is not impartial and refuses to be recused.
  It may also be an elaborately scripted event intended to appear fair while having the outcome predetermined from the start.Terms meaning "show trial", like the German Schauprozess, indicate the result is fixed before (usually guilty): the "trial" is just for show. Notorious were Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin's kangaroo trials against his enemies, whom he labeled enemies of the people, notably in the context of the Great Purge. Another example is Roland Freisler's "processes" against the enemies of the National-Socialist regime.
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  Kangaroo Court that is what you find at a Elders court.

  by Cheetos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a kangaroo court or kangaroo trial, sometimes likened to a drumhead court-martial or drumhead trial, is a sham legal proceeding or court.

  kangaroo courts are judicial proceedings that deny due process rights in the name of expediency.

  such rights include the right to summon witnesses, the right of cross-examination, the right not to incriminate oneself, the right not to be tried on secret evidence, the right to control one's own defense, the right to exclude evidence that is improperly obtained, irrelevant or inherently inadmissible (e.g.

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  Cheetos

  A kangaroo court or kangaroo trial, sometimes likened to a drumhead court-martial or Drumhead trial, is a sham legal proceeding or court. Kangaroo courts are judicial proceedings that deny due process rights in the name of expediency. Such rights include the right to summon witnesses, the right of cross-examination, the right not to incriminate oneself, the right not to be tried on secret evidence, the right to control one's own defense, the right to exclude evidence that is improperly obtained, irrelevant or inherently inadmissible (e.g. hearsay), the right to exclude judges or jurors on the grounds of partiality or conflict of interest, and the right of appeal. The outcome of a trial by "kangaroo court" is essentially determined in advance, usually for the purpose of providing a conviction, either by going through the motions of manipulated procedure or by allowing no defense at all.
  The term is often applied to courts subjectively judged as such, while others consider the court to be legitimate and legal. A kangaroo court may be a court that has had its integrity compromised; for example, if the judge is not impartial and refuses to be recused. Don’t this remind you of a judicial committee?
  You will find more justice in the courts of our fair land than any Kindom Hall court.

  SORRY I DID THIS THREAD TWICE, THE OTHER ONE IS BETTER I THINK THANK YOU COMRAD.
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  Did You "Wait" On Jehovah or Did You "Run Ahead"?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  were you ever counseled for "running ahead of jehovah's organization?".

  did you have to be told that you needed to "wait on jehovah"?.

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  Cheetos

  It never did bother me to "Run Ahead" of the WT (GB), now on the other hand to ignor god knowingly that I tried not to do, everytime I hear the term Running Ahead it makes me want to puke. I always wanted to worship god not humans, and the (GB) wants too much admeration.
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  Hanging Snow flakes on my windows is that bad too?

  by Cheetos in

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  is hanging snow flakes or autum stuff a no no too and will i get kicked out for it?

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  Is hanging snow flakes or autum stuff a NO NO too and will I get kicked out for it?
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  How do I get my file from the Congregation I used to attend?

  by QuestioningEverything in

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  Cheetos

  Well, you don't. I wish you could but your not dealing with Christ Jesus, your dealing with a cult who likes to control besides once they give you yours than everyone else will want theirs than look at the mess they got.
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  WTS and child labour laws

  by lilyflor in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  are any child labour laws broken when minors (especially those 14 and under) are sent out to sell (distribute, whatever) wts magazines?.

  has anyone come across any such info?.

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  Cheetos

  It is the parents fault, but yes it is very close to breaking the law, I remeber when I was young my dad made me go and scrap food trays I hated it, they would not ever give me a carton of milk for payment, those tight wads.
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  What exactly was the proper food at the proper time?

  by Hoping4Change in

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  2. beliefs

  forgetting (and forgiving for the sake of discussion) all of the changes, mistakes and errors between the teachings from the late 1800's to 1920 by the bible students, what exactly was the "proper food" being dispensed during the "proper time" when jesus supposedly made his choice of this group of people to be the sole harbringers of truth?

  i am assuming all of those changes/mistakes/errors, of course were not proper food, so what were the things being taught during jesus's selection that led him to select the bible students?

  is there anything truly unique (and correct/accurate/proper) that can be claimed by the bible students during that time period that could warrant jesus' choice?.

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  Cheetos

  It does not matter what the JW's claim, they are a distortion of the Bible Student movment and the fact that they hold to the history of the Bible Student's is a shame and a insult to the Bible Students. Anyway the "proper food" is the one true plan of god and how he will cure mankind through his son and remove death it is the understanding of this at the time of Russell. Russell did not ever seek to tell others what they can and can not do, as the J F R did. For the first time the simple and wonderfull plan of god was uncovered.
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  Interesting video

  by Micky4321 in

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  2. medical

  i find this video interesting since i have two immediate family members who have tried to commit suicide they are both jw's one is not involved for the last year and the other if you can believe is an elder right now.

  this discusses how the jw religion causes depression from a doctors viewpoint who used to be a jw also.

  i just have always thought that the religion causes depression since a completely different family member has suffered from depression in my family also.

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  Cheetos

  I agree completly good video thanks.