Posts by baysixforme

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So What The Hell Are You?

by shamus in

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according to dubdom, what are you?

i am a lame weakass lamb who goes on apostate websites who faded.

in the real world i am free from mind control.

I gently faded at first, going to the odd meetings until it became too hard to bear. I am now a full blown despiser of all that they teach and consequently haven't attended any meetings since last years memorial.

Now I wouldn't go back there if I was paid to do so, I despise the building, those that attend and their teachings. I have grown so much since leaving all of that behind and really feel that I am a completely different person than what I was when I was subserviently doing what was expected of me.

I wouldn't give a shit if they decided to disfellowship me now... Let them find a reason...

I'm not saying that I would give in gracefully, I still have plenty that I would like to say to them. However, they do not rule me any more. I take charge of my own life. They are now very much insignificant to me these days. I think that they know that anyway and that is why they have allowed me to drift...

Watch this space........

Bay64me

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That They Be Called Shepherds

by Farkel in

i recently put up a thread which discussed the fact that the wts does not hesitate to promote and sell books containing "old light" to its membership and the public.

well, that thread was about material things and to a lesser extent spiritual things.. how does the wts feel about spiritual things?

let's take a peek.

baysixforme

A shepherding call, in my memory always carried connotations of trouble; meaning that if one was the recipient of such attention, one was certainly heading down the wrong path. Shepherding therefore meant that an individuals 'wrongdoing' was being brought to the congregations attention in a subtle way.

On the other hand, I became very well aware of numerous members of my old congregation that were crying out for help and were suffering in a very big way and there were no 'shepherds' available to assist them. The only 'help' available was in the form of so-called special needs talks which were designed to encourage more praying, meeting attendance and field service, which somehow seemed to imply that those experiencing difficulties were nothing but weak.

Bay64me

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cocktails/mixing drinks

by baysixforme in

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i went to a bbq the other night and had a couple of glasses of white wine before being offered a white rum with black pepper.

i knocked back two of those...not particularly large ones either and that was it...i was somewhere else!.

the good part about it was that i was with some good friends who were able to take care of me....the bad part was that i could hardly remember anything the next day.

baysixforme

Please tell me more Michael.........Where can I find information on the effects of drinking this mix....I'd really like to understand what happened to me.

Bay64me

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Elders Meeting

by New Castles in

allright let me tell you what happened yesterday.

i went to the meeting yesterday because my cousin was visiting and wanted to know where the kh was located.

i finally offered to go with her to avoid any issues.

baysixforme

Things may well depend upon the status of the congregation that you visited.

In my case there were a lot that coincidently drifted/left/disfellowshipped/dissasociated/faded, and of those that were left behind, a substantial amount of them were either born into it through generations and didn't have the guts/means or inclination to leave and there were also others that simply half-heartedly went with the flow, (i.e. needed constant reminders via special needs talks to make them answer up, go out on field service or simply attend meetings)! I'm sure my congregation wasn't specifically different to any other!

Therefore, in my case, when the elders came-a -knocking, I simply told them how it was for me, I didn't hold back or give them any bullshit and as a consequence, they were unable to pursuade me to return.

I can understand your fear, I have felt that before, yet with time I am sure that you will be able to focus upon what is right for you and not what is right for them, also, the advice that has been previously given here with regards to 'being out' or 'having something else to do' at the time of the arranged appointment with them is something to be worthy of consideration?

Whatever suits you is what you need to go with.

Take care,

Regards,

Bay64me

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HELP! Urgent advice needed - Child Custody - JW Mother

by catlady in

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my partner ('beaker' on jwd) & i are having rapidly escalating child custody issues.

(see previous thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/71815/1.ashx) tonight when the kids (7 & 9 yrs) were dropped back to their mother's she announced that his access was going to be further reduced as of now.. she is very nasty anyway, constantly regeging on previous arrangements & given the borg stuff is also thrown in the mix my partner is going to try for full custody.

the solicitor (who has worked on previous jw cases) we have consulted with does not think we can bring the jw stuff up with a judge.

baysixforme

As shotgun already said, I would steer clear of citing religion as a main cause of concern. I'm in the UK and have had similar issues in the past and am presently anticipating a major battle in court.

The main criteria should be the welfare of the child/ren and that goes down well with the authorities, and I'm sure that would be in your part of the world too! It might be worth considering, and I don't mean this lightly.....that there is a difference between what pisses us off personally about the absent/other parent and what the courts, family court welfare officers, social workers etc deem to be a legitimate cause for complaint. This is of course a difficult thing to do at times when emotions run high and principles are being violated.

If you can voice your concerns about your issues....and do this in a calm and reasonable manner, (which is under the circumstances is sometimes very difficult to do), then this will go a long way, especially when the same people that interview you will be also speaking to the other party, a member of a high control and lets face it....a deviant religious adherent of a minority faith with weird practices!!!! C'mon let it speak for itself!

Don't lose heart. Things can turn out right in the end. I do know the anguish involved with child custody battles and the anticipation can be gut-wrenching. But one thing that I have learned is that, If you stick your neck out for what is right and do not waver and at all times bear in mind, (respectfully) with whom you are dealing with, you can win!

Keep us informed,

Regards,

Bay64me

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What are you listening to as you read?

by reboot in

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can't get over how good the new jet album get born is...there's a definate t-rex resurrection revival going on here....with a little ac/dc thrown in for good measure ..its awesome...some amazing acoustic guitar based guitar ballads too- a real ecclectic mix that hangs really well together..got to have the headphones on though as its got to be loud..now all i have to do is hope they get better before glastonbury.

what are you listening to tonight?

baysixforme

My frigging neighbours...........I don't like football!

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Do you trust JW's?

by desib77 in

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i guess i'm asking in more of a business aspect?

or in any kind of dealings with them.....for example, because of their morals honesty is "supposed" to be practiced.

would you hire one because of this?

baysixforme

Unfortunately because of my own experience, I have difficulty in trusting males wearing suits and ties. I also initially tend to mistrust females in the garb that is so often worn by J.W. women.

I tend to view the outward appearances of such individuals as a veneer that masks an ugly interior.

I do realise that my perceptions are based entirely upon stereotypes of those that hurt and betrayed my family...but this reaction, now I suppose is a built in protection from further potential damage.

Sounds quite sad when my thoughts are put into words like this, but I'm afraid that is what my own personal experience has done for me.

Bay64me

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Is anyone going to Glastonbury?

by reboot in

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decided on the spur of the moment to try and get some glastonbury tickets yesterday,as there were still 55, 000 left due to the system cock ups... had friends who stayed up til 5am trying on the friday night but none of us had any luck, mind you, with two teenagers and a child it's the equivilent of a small mortgage...did anyone here have any joy?

i've just had a phone call this morning to say i had sunday tickets , the ones you can get if you live in somerset...ive got a phone number if anyone want to try it... so; if anyone wants to meet up to have a shamanistic dance or two, share moment in the tipi field or help me negociate the toilet block..... i'll be around...

baysixforme

I'll be there!

Only managed to secure tickets for Sunday. (Although I've entered several competitions for a weekend pass)....(still waiting to hear ...but you never know!..........sad/desparate bastard)!

Can't say I'll be around the pyramid stage whenn the Ride of the Valkyries...or whatever is being performed...but I'll surely be present when Muse are headlining and Morrisey is tempting!

Hoping to meet Reboot and Satans little helper...and anyone else that can fit in a little time in the huge schedule of events that will surely need tending to!

Keep in touch via the board and perhaps we can exchange mobile no's and meet up for a while?????

Bay64me

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cocktails/mixing drinks

by baysixforme in

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i went to a bbq the other night and had a couple of glasses of white wine before being offered a white rum with black pepper.

i knocked back two of those...not particularly large ones either and that was it...i was somewhere else!.

the good part about it was that i was with some good friends who were able to take care of me....the bad part was that i could hardly remember anything the next day.

baysixforme

I went to a BBQ the other night and had a couple of glasses of white wine before being offered a white rum with black pepper. I knocked back two of those...not particularly large ones either and that was it...I was somewhere else!

The good part about it was that I was with some good friends who were able to take care of me....The bad part was that I could hardly remember anything the next day. I wasn't sick or ill, just a huge memory loss which has scared me.

I was just wondering if anybody here knew if there is some kind of reaction that occurs when mixing white rum and black pepper!!!!!!! Sounds strange to me but I can't explain it any other way unless there was something in the drink that was a little more sinister..... Maby I just need to get out more?

Bay64me

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What's the craziest thing you ever heard at the Kingdom Hall or Assembly?

by Mr Ben in

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what's the craziest thing you ever heard at the kingdom hall or assembly hall?

there were lots of crazy ideas coming from elders, co's & do's in my neck of the woods, but one in particular sticks in my mind.

it was the very last circuit assembly at hellerby in yorkshire (hell!

baysixforme

I also rememer a circuit overseer telling our congregation that certain childrens videos contained demonic subliminal messages. This included The Little Mermaid and a couple of others that were popular at the time, I forget right now, (my memories are fading and I'm glad)! The content of which, (he stated), were too disgusting to even speak about and certainly couldn't be mentioned in the Kingdom Hall.

Loads of kids were either really freaked out over this or extremely curious and wouldn't stop asking questions about what it was that they weren't allowed to see....obviously his ill-thought out comments provoked mass interest in the very thing that he was hoping to discourage....... for whatever reason! Dickhead!