Getting back to 1914 which is the subject here, it seems logical that some of the people if not most of the people that heard the preaching message would be alive to experience the consequences of not listening like in the days of Noah—and not die of natural causes. People are born all the time and would be listening to same message 200 years after 1914 and even farther away if the gt does not happen and the preaching work would be insignificant to the people that died only to be resurrected again. In the days of Noah, people lived longer than they do now so 120 years later most people would be alive to see the end but people don’t live that long during 1914 so like in the days of Noah the end should come in the lifetime of the people who heard the message—at least it doesn’t seem logical that everybody just dies naturally and the end comes later on. In the days of Noah not taking note were swept away; in the 1st century they were massacred by the Romans and in prior times too where a preaching message was experienced such as during the era of the prophets and first temple people involved also saw and lamented their rejection of not listening. It is only logical that during the parausia it would be just like all these previous times. So here we are 108 years later born in to when the preaching work began. So what happens to the millions or more that were around when the preaching work began and took no note only to die naturally 100 years later and not swept away by armageddon? 1914 surely applies to the anointed but by the same token must also apply to those that take no note.
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Simple Question Re 1914
by Slidin Fast inwt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
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WHEN is the Kingdom of God coming?
by Fisherman inwhen is the kingdom of god coming?.
on being asked by the pharisees when the kingdom of god was coming, he answered them: “the kingdom of god is not coming with paratherisis; 21 nor will people say, ‘see here!’ or, ‘there!’ for look!
the kingdom of god is in your midst.” —lu 17:20,21. .
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Daniel 9:25 predicted the date of the Messiah’s arrival (WHEN). The book of Daniel in poetic language also predicted the “second coming” —or the Parousia.
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WHEN is the Kingdom of God coming?
by Fisherman inwhen is the kingdom of god coming?.
on being asked by the pharisees when the kingdom of god was coming, he answered them: “the kingdom of god is not coming with paratherisis; 21 nor will people say, ‘see here!’ or, ‘there!’ for look!
the kingdom of god is in your midst.” —lu 17:20,21. .
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WHEN is the kingdom of God coming?
On being asked by the Pharisees when the Kingdom of God was coming, he answered them: “The Kingdom of God is not coming with paratherisis; 21 nor will people say, ‘See here!’ or, ‘There!’ For look! the Kingdom of God is in your midst.” —Lu 17:20,21
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Simple Question Re 1914
by Slidin Fast inwt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
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Mathew 13:11. Also, the Bible is written in a form that leaves it up to the reader to conclude for himself what he chooses to believe. No point in arguing.
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Simple Question Re 1914
by Slidin Fast inwt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
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Jews were especially expecting a Messiah around 30 CE
The Book, the Son of Man by Emil Ludwig portrays Jesus as a dreamer but also describes the atmosphere in Jesus’s day as expecting the Messiah. —No doubt based on Daniel. Rabbinical Jews today view Daniel as Kethuvim and not as part of the Neviim. But it doesn’t matter because given the authenticity of Daniel in Dan 9:25 it predicts the Messiah in Jesus’s day. The book of Daniel is prophetic because it predicts the future kingdom of God. Not because wt says so but because many Jews were expecting the Messiah during Jesus but Jesus did not meet their expectations. Further, the Judaism that developed after 70CE does not represent the forms of Judaism that existed in the 2nd Temple era although today’s Juda ism survived from that Pharisaical Judaism. Of course after the rejection of Jesus, Jews took a stand in interpreting Bible verses that refer to him so they don’t apply to him but you can’t hide the sun with one finger.
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Simple Question Re 1914
by Slidin Fast inwt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
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our worldview is dynamic and consistent with the progression of true knowledge.
How true. And our interpretation of the Bible and of Bible prophecy is also progressive like solving a crossword puzzle. Our algorithm is to use the Bible to interpret the Bible.
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Simple Question Re 1914
by Slidin Fast inwt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
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A lot of criticism but scholar’s commentary stand up.
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Jesus is Michael the Archangel
by Fisherman inonly jesus has the power and authority to defeat satan and kick him out of heaven:.
“now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our god and the authority of his christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our god.”.
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It is what it is.
At 1 Thessalonians 4:16 the voice of the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ is described as being that of an archangel, suggesting that he is, in fact, himself the archangel. This text depicts him as descending from heaven with “a commanding call.” It is only logical, therefore, that the voice expressing this commanding call be described by a word that would not diminish or detract from the great authority that Christ Jesus now has as King of kings and Lord of lords. (Mt 28:18; Re 17:14) If the designation “archangel” applied, not to Jesus Christ, but to other angels, then the reference to “an archangel’s voice” would not be appropriate. In that case it would be describing a voice of lesser authority than that of the Son of God. —Insight on the Scriptures, Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.
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Jesus is Michael the Archangel
by Fisherman inonly jesus has the power and authority to defeat satan and kick him out of heaven:.
“now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our god and the authority of his christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our god.”.
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Thank you, TD.
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Wrong Religion
by Vanderhoven7 inwe brainstormed a while back on this forum and pooled our knowledge on how to recognize false religion.
i think the list is worth reviewing and adding to if possible.
please feel free to correct and or add insights of your own to this list:.
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A fortune cookie once advised:
“To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill.” —Sun Tzu, The Art of War.
I wonder if he was inspired by the Psalm: “Go subduing in the midsts of your enemies.”? referring to Jesus Christ during his invisible presence. Whatever the source, he was in China at the time when his contemporary Zechariah wrote the words God said to Zerubbabel about 600 years later: “Not by power, not by military force, but by my spirit.”
Interesting coincidences.