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  New method to absolutely date Fall of Jerusalem.

  by waton in

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  for what it is worth to those interested.

  1914.. tel-aviv university.

  "biblical military campaigns reconstructed using geomagnetic field data.

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  Then, how come you view it as interpretation?!

  Because it is not a historical fact.
  
  
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  New method to absolutely date Fall of Jerusalem.

  by waton in

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  for what it is worth to those interested.

  1914.. tel-aviv university.

  "biblical military campaigns reconstructed using geomagnetic field data.

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  Did you read his book?

  Obviously, if I can comment on it as interpretation. It has also been a subject of discussion on this Forum decades ago or less with commentary on interpretation of ancient stelles, etc. scholar and other members here posting their views on it.
  
  
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  New method to absolutely date Fall of Jerusalem.

  by waton in

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  for what it is worth to those interested.

  1914.. tel-aviv university.

  "biblical military campaigns reconstructed using geomagnetic field data.

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  proves his conclusions with facts

  Not really. His conclusions are only that, his interpretation. Not saying it’s not valid. I also don’t reject his view out of spite. I agree with WT interpretation because it makes sense. But we just don’t know for a fact, we can only believe.
  
  
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  How do Witnesses reconcile Isaiah 43:10 with John 1:1

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  something does not compute.

  you are my witnesses,”declares jehovah, yes, my servant whom i have chosen, so that you may know and have faith in me and understand that i am the same one.before me no god was formed, and after me there has been none.

  isaiah 43:10. in the beginning was the word, and the word was with god and the word was god.

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  Don’t have to be a JW to conclude when reading the Bible that Jesus is the Messiah, his birth was miraculous, he was a son of God or that Jesus and Almighty God are 2 separate entities or other JW beliefs. Neither Earnest or SBJ or TD are WT apologists because they interpret parts of the Bible in agreement with JW. Calling them apologists is ridiculing their objective view. I respect their impartial posts.
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  How do Witnesses reconcile Isaiah 43:10 with John 1:1

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  something does not compute.

  you are my witnesses,”declares jehovah, yes, my servant whom i have chosen, so that you may know and have faith in me and understand that i am the same one.before me no god was formed, and after me there has been none.

  isaiah 43:10. in the beginning was the word, and the word was with god and the word was god.

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  You don’t understand the Bible language and literary device and the meaning of the term God in Bible languages. Also when you are reading an English translation of the Bible. You are reading an interpretation of the translator. Sometimes you can’t put things into exact words of another language. And you need to factor in ( don’t forget) the rest of the Bible.

  John was describing the human Jesus in his prehuman form.

  In the beginning the Word (JC the first born —don’t forget he had a birth in heaven) existed. And the Word was with T H E D O C T O R, and the word was a doctor. In the Greek language, nouns can be descriptive or adjectives so there is no need for an article in front of doctor. “The Word was God” misrepresents what the scripture is saying because the verse does not say that the Word was THE GOD. It only describes the Word as having a GODlike nature. But the verse is absolutely not saying the Word and THE GOD are the same entity.

  That is the best I can do. Again, don’t forget to factor in the test of the Bible
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  New method to absolutely date Fall of Jerusalem.

  by waton in

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  for what it is worth to those interested.

  1914.. tel-aviv university.

  "biblical military campaigns reconstructed using geomagnetic field data.

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  ….Even the word apPOINTED times of the nations aka Gentiles Times(as JW see it) deals with war in the heavens and end of trampling Jerusalem.. Compared to magnetic pointing.
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  New method to absolutely date Fall of Jerusalem.

  by waton in

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  for what it is worth to those interested.

  1914.. tel-aviv university.

  "biblical military campaigns reconstructed using geomagnetic field data.

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  good for establish in whether other military campaigns were earlier or later.

  Magnetic pointing.

  Funny and Ironic how the word “pointed”occurs twice in God’s Word and both refer to military campaigns against Jerusalem. Once when the king of Babylon used uncanny power and God caused it to point to Jerusalem in 607 and 2 when Jesus prophesied about a fortification of pointed stakes that the Romans would build around Jerusalem in 70. Eze 21:22, Lu 19:43
  
  
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  Was / Is God biased ? prejudiced against certain Peoples / Tribes or Nations ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  let me explain :.

  after the creation account of the bible, tribes of people and nations began to form and spread around the land.. god first chose noah and his family to protect them as he destroys all others in the flood.. and he ticks off everyone in babel ?

  and then he favours abraham and his descendants as the nation of israel culminating in the jewish lineage to jesus the son of god.. he has never had any dealings with any other people`s or nation isn`t that some form of favouritism ?

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  Perhaps you're recalling Deut 7:7 : Least not last.

  Yes! There is a commentary on the verse from one of the Rabbis that explains the verse as last but the Hebrew word does not mean last. I was quoting verbatim from that commentary. It makes sense though. The Bible doesn’t actually say that God went to all the nations and his last choice was the Jews and they accepted. But that is what Rashi says God did.
  
  
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  Judgment Day

  by Fisherman in

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  a specific “day,” or period, when particular groups, nations, or mankind in general are called to account by god.

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  “i solemnly charge you before god and christ jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead,”- 2 tim 4:1. seems like sins are not paid by dying or the ransom if there is a judgment in-spite of it.

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  Hi Smiddy,

  The issue with government and other powers judging is that secular laws are based or arbitrary standards and as chief justice Berger said that they are Courts of law not Courts of justice. Laws are not just. Judgment day has to do with good and bad not legal and illegal. Secular courts adjudicate unlawful conduct and not morality. Judgement day is payback and justice and vengeance and setting things straight and vindication. Justice is for those getting recompensed for injustice like when God executed the first born of Egypt in retaliation for Pharoh killing first born of Israel but in judgement day the dead get resurrected too totally defeating the enemies of God’s friends. So there is a big difference between secular courts that try law breakers and prosecuters even punish innocent people and forcing them to plead guilty or face with death or 4 times the punishment and that ain’t justice. Judgment day will satisfy thise wronged and those who repented too.
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  Was / Is God biased ? prejudiced against certain Peoples / Tribes or Nations ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  let me explain :.

  after the creation account of the bible, tribes of people and nations began to form and spread around the land.. god first chose noah and his family to protect them as he destroys all others in the flood.. and he ticks off everyone in babel ?

  and then he favours abraham and his descendants as the nation of israel culminating in the jewish lineage to jesus the son of god.. he has never had any dealings with any other people`s or nation isn`t that some form of favouritism ?

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  Fisherman

  Hi Smid!

  First, broadly speaking, the Bible doesn’t record all of God’s dealings with individual humans throughout human history—not enough pages and tangent to the Bible theme. It only focuses and recounts some dealings. Take for example Job who was not a Jew which is in the Bible record but why not others too that are not in the Bible. Of course we don’t know but it is logical.

  I’m trying to find the verse. But says something like you were the last of all the people or the last of all the nations.

  Take for example Adam and Eve, he gave them a chance. He could have created somebody else that would have been obedient. Esau didn’t want it. Look at king Saul too. The evidence is that God is fair but if you loose the opportunity it’s on you. The faith that Abraham showed was so huge that he swore by himself to bless him and his descendants. Was Abraham his first choice? We know that God first chose Saul. David was his second. Finally God rejected natural Israel and selected Gentiles to be part of the seed with Jesus.