Depends on how one likes to define cover up. Sure you know that WT DFs people that do those things.
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Is There Concrete Evidence That The Org. Has Covered up Child Abuse?
by Vanderhoven7 ini hear of a plenty of personal testimonies of abuse but it is harder to prove organizational complicity.
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They still call it Pizza but it doesn’t taste like it anymore.
by Fisherman ini remember as a kid that a slice of pizza was a dime, the same price for a large bag of m&ms or a large hershey’s bar or an ice cream popsicle, box of cracker jacks, bag of potato chips, bus fare.
the dimes were made out of silver and many of them were mercury dimes with the dates worn off.
…and while nowadays except for the pizza, everything tastes about the same only now costing 10 times as much, bus fare costs 28x as much and pizza costs 40x as much:.
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Fisherman
I remember as a kid that a slice of pizza was a dime, the same price for a large bag of M&Ms or a large Hershey’s bar or an ice cream popsicle, box of cracker jacks, bag of potato chips, bus fare. The dimes were made out of silver and many of them were mercury dimes with the dates worn off.
…And while nowadays except for the pizza, everything tastes about the same only now costing 10 times as much, bus fare costs 28x as much and pizza costs 40x as much:
The so called pizza is made with artificial cheese and cheap ingredients everywhere you go. For some years a few pizza joints continued to use real cheese and ingredients and it was a delight to eat, same taste as the dime pizza of old, very tasty and satisfying with real gooey cheese. Now they’ve stopped and all pizza shops have deteriorated and serving artificial pizza that is a waste of time to eat using fake cheese and cheap sauce. People still eat them because that is all there is everywhere you go.
How is the Pizza where you live?
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Goodbye Mother
by punkofnice inso my mother passed on 20 aug 23 from the big c. i was there when she went.
that was indeed very traumatic.
i won't go to describe it.. dad went 17 years ago so there's just me now.
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Do they think this will attract people into their cult?
My sincerest condolences for your loss.
The invited minister should have realized beforehand that he was outside his jurisdiction inside the kh. He is not a Rev inside the kh.
I have attended funerals for JW where their df family comes to the kh and all JW treat and greet the df family members with compassion and warmth and talk to them and comfort them. —Now if someone starts preaching another religion inside the kh, that is being disorderly and disrespectful.
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1974 and all that
by Number 6 inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xznh9icm1os.
i came across this footage recently whilst searching for something completely unrelated and it blew me away!.
it's from the august 1974 convention at murrayfield, edinburgh and you can clearly see the stage set up still keeping the 6000 years and 1975 mantra going.. what makes this very personal for me is that i was here.
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Two biggest issues for Watchtower right now
by Teddnzo inselena accused tony morris of being involved in child abuse and the pimo bethelite who just got kicked out.
let’s see how this rolls out.
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Fisherman
Nothing noteworthy here in this post that is an issue.
Human conduct can be written off and offenders replaced not mitigating the solidity of being God’s org to convinced believers —and logically. The real logical issues are the teachings of 1914 and the last days being true and if directions that might have cause injury or death were from erroneous interpretation of the Bible. JW true believers won’t be unconvinced though and will see things through.
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I think the implication is that after waiting in suspense for the gt, it didn’t come and if you feel let down after the suspense keep trying to make disciples. The ones in suspense were the elders the only ones that knew about the secret so that is the message to them.
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Dean Songer
by Charles Gillette ina long time servant of the watchtower organization died this week.
his name was dean songer.
does anyone have any memories about him that they would like to share with us?
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Dean Songer was a good man. Charlie Plaeger (also in writing, I believe) was his roommate.
He, at last got a room to himself in mid 70’s. Truly a remarkable man and an un-song hero, great servant. Flawless in integrity and morality. He was qualified and competent, and worthy to be called an Elder and a Leader. He gave WT his all, everything in his power to give, time, energy, skills, resources. After his work assignment in Bethel, he did physical work at kh projects. Axiomatically an imperfect sinful man but of the same caliber as the apostles Paul or Peter or any of the Bible great patriarchs. A man worthy of honor and respect and laudation. A humble true believer lacking no spiritual fruitage or virtue.
“You must be perfect as your heavenly father is perfect.” I observed him and scrutinized him closely. I did not detect flaw in his comportment, temperament, spirituality or morality. Dean Songer lacked nothing—complete. As it was posted, he was amazingly intellectually gifted. One of the greatest JW leaders. Respected and an honor to have known him,
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Sign of the Last Days
by Fisherman inin the sermon on the mount, jesus foretold that earthquakes “in one place after another” would be part of the sign of the last days clímaxing in the great tribulation.. what could jesus possibly have meant?
using a phone app nowadays, there are earthquakes detected in one place after another but is this what jesus meant and did they have so many earthquakes throughout the centuries affter his prophecy or are these modern day detected earthquakes unique to this epoch?
how can we be sure unequivocally that modern day earthquakes are part of the sign fulfilling bible prophecy?.
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Every prophecy ever made about the end of the world has failed.
The Bible records prophecies of ends of worlds that did come true so that gives support to prophecies about Armageddon that logically also must come true. For example, Jesus foretold the tragic destruction of Jerusalem which amazingly came true, Noah’s flood, the Assyrian destruction of the ten tribe kingdom kingdom, the Babylonian exile of Judah and destruction of the first Temple, the fall and destruction of Babylonian. Given their authenticity, the Armageddon prophecies must also be true from the same book.
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“This is my son the beloved. Listen to HIM,”
by Fisherman inthe apostles and early christians suffered and died resulting from listening to jesus and jesus said this would happen.. but is listening to jesus the same as direction from the gb based on interpretation of the bible, for example, in medical treatment or other directions?
a christian could expect death or injury resulting from listening to jesus but should this validate possible erroneous understanding of the bible?
we know that peter was executed because of his christianity and so was jesus by the way.
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Tonus, nice post.
But how to determine which of those (if any) is being guided by god?
A voice from heaven or something to that effect.
But even then what troubles some is being Uriah led to the front lines by God’s anointed. Should Uriah not have listened to king David? Would that have been not following theocratic order and displeasing to God?
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“This is my son the beloved. Listen to HIM,”
by Fisherman inthe apostles and early christians suffered and died resulting from listening to jesus and jesus said this would happen.. but is listening to jesus the same as direction from the gb based on interpretation of the bible, for example, in medical treatment or other directions?
a christian could expect death or injury resulting from listening to jesus but should this validate possible erroneous understanding of the bible?
we know that peter was executed because of his christianity and so was jesus by the way.
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The Apostles and early Christians suffered and died resulting from listening to Jesus and Jesus said this would happen.
But is listening to Jesus the same as direction from the gb based on interpretation of the Bible, for example, in medical treatment or other directions? A Christian could expect death or injury resulting from listening to Jesus but should this validate possible erroneous understanding of the Bible? We know that Peter was executed because of his Christianity and so was Jesus by the way. The issue is, is it necessary to die or be seriously injure?. Obviously, a Christian doesn’t go to a battlefield and kill fellow christians or put herself in a position to be killed by them. —Because that clearly violates the Bible. But how about in other matters of life and death, how do you know you are listening to Jesus?