Posts by Fisherman

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How will the Watchtower Cult end?

by WireRider in

some announcement of sorts?.

there are all kinds of conspiracy theories.

their head count and time cards are all faked by the gb, and "congregations".

Fisherman

How will the Watchtower Cult end?

That will never happen. JW claim that they know that there is a human element which is part of the WT org. inspite of it being "God's org." JW is a community of many millions all over the world.. They are JW not because of the WT org but because they conclude that they have a relationship with God and they also conclude that God drew them to the WT and uses the WT to unite them and direct them regardless of any WT blunders.And even seeming WT blunders were something that God allowed to happen. Think of the worst possible scenario that could befall the WT org. JW would not loose their faith over it. Nothing, it is impossible for anything to change what JW believe that they know, individuals yes but not the core of the JW people. They trust in God inspite of the WT being run by people. They stand firm and they are not budging. Of course if God does not come to the rescue then it will end with all religions as mankind enters the end of religion era. But never let it cross your mind that JW will end and survived by all the other religions. That will never happen.

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Living as Christians at the C.L.A.M this week

by Truthexplorer in

this weeks meeting under the section - living as 'christians', starts off with 'repentance makes a difference', which is a talk given by an elder taken from w06 11/15 27-28 par 7-9. in a nut shell it discusses those who have been disfellowshipped and then show repentance.

it then goes on to discuss reinstatement and how a certain amount of time must pass by before this can take place.

it makes the following point in the paragraph.. 'a disfellowshipped person is not automatically accepted back into the congregation after a certain amount of time has passed.

Fisherman

evidence that he has repented and is producing 'works that befit repentance'

It means going to the meetings for 6 months or more and to stop what you were doing that got you df. -But the elders look for evidence of God's Holy Spirit

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Fishing and JW's???

by lurkernomore in

so i was just reading a thread and came across a completely new jw 'rule', that of not being allowed to go fishing!..

at least it's new to me as i always enjoyed fishing as did others in my old congregation.

anyone else heard of this or had this imposed on them in they're jw lives?.

Fisherman

The WT position is that it is not proper for a christian to hunt or fish for sport, but they leave it up to the conscience of the person. But they do not teach that it is wrong to fish or hunt for business or food. But they teach that it is a sin to be cruel to animals.

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Infighting at the top?

by JeffT in

jw
friends

we've all been trying to decipher what is going on at the top of the watchtower organization.

clearly, the game's afoot, we just don't know what game we're playing.

item: the constant harping about money and donations.

Fisherman

only the top 7 JW's are allowed to disagree about anything.

Is that how you think? I do not think that the "disagreement" comes from the GB among themselves. There are other powerful and solid old time non anointed players and other not so old but very solid (spiritual ) players. Do you really think that the GB are the only minds running the show? Voicing disagreement is allowed (disagreement) and disagreement is also seen by attitude. What is not allowed is disobedience and opposition. The GB comes to an agreement and implement direction but there are other players and everyone should be pulling in the same direction and when they don't it's because of disagreement. It is not about the GB out of the clear blue sky dictating direction, there is more.

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Infighting at the top?

by JeffT in

jw
friends

we've all been trying to decipher what is going on at the top of the watchtower organization.

clearly, the game's afoot, we just don't know what game we're playing.

item: the constant harping about money and donations.

Fisherman

We've all been trying to decipher what is going on at the top of the Watchtower organization.

The era of the charismatic GB is gone. The beloved and respected and awed old timers are no more. It appears that the new generation of leaders at the very top just do not have the same influence over their fellow contemporary subordinates and JW pubs in general as the beloved old timer heavies that are gone once did. And it does not seem that JWS want to gear up for another couple of hundred years of invisible rule and preaching and developing the org. which seems to be the case. It was a very strategical move for JW to sell all the high profile expensive properties ( or risk loosing them ) and lay low upstate.

It is a new era in JW history ( a century+ after 1914 ) and the JW leaders want people to move on from the past and have a new frame of mind but a lot of people wanted the status quo as still do as they wait for the end to realize, and not to move on with all of the implemented changes.There should be disagreement at the very top between the younger anointed leaders and same age and older subordinate non anointed leaders because the awe from such non anointed leaders is not there.

Change is not new with the WT. Lots of changes through out the years. But these new changes are monumental. Changing the music and the meetings also changes the experience of worship one felt and related to. .

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The new service meeting

by John Aquila in

i wanted to relate an experience that happened this morning.

it is regarding the new format for the meeting on thursdays in my area.

its not word for word but im summarizing what i heard, the best i can remember.

Fisherman

It is a longer meeting and announcements are at the end of the meeting. By the end of the meeting people are tired and just want to go home and the excitement one had at the beginning of the meetings to hear news is gone. Announcements were something to look forward to during the meeting. It also served as a a mental break from the program and gave people a little extra energy for the rest of the program.

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I almost died laughing at the meeting last night. OMG WTF is going on? Have I been away this long?

by macys in

ok so most of you guys know already that i am going through the reinstatement process for my parents but i do have a partially sinister plan which i will not mention here since someone told me that there are b-lites that read boards like this.

last night and it was the funniest experience i have ever seen.

besides that the brother doing the sound and video screwed up the whole thing when showing the videos and it took 3 brothers to fix it after 10 minutes, the whole thing was a joke.

Fisherman

re-edit the entire video with a new/substitute actor

It would be easy in the vid if they had to slip in a different voice because the person behind the voice in the vid got df.

On TV when they canned Dick York and slipped in Dick Sergeant (same first name,) they thought that nobody would notice the difference. But they did!

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Half of the cong was dancing last night

by StarTrekAngel in

so went to the meeting last night.

i had not been to one since before the holiday break (3 weeks ago).

besides, it was our first meeting in the new format.

Fisherman

At the gilead grad years ago the mex bros would yelp like indians but the wt stopped it. Not proper conduct at the hall or meetings.

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The new songs!

by stuckinarut2 in

is it just me and my cynical nature now, but are those new songs just so "culty" or what??.

if you haven't herd them yet, go to the office website and listen and read the lyrics.....

Fisherman

Changing the music unlinks a person emotionally from the era. -The way things were in JW before. LIke the music that connects the experience with the ....70's 80s.... gone forever, only a memory remains when you listen to an old song and remember the way it was before. It is different now. JW wants people get detached emotionally and mentally. Thus the change because it has an affect on the thinking and emotions.

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After 17 years, I went to a KH....really shocked!!

by Prometheus in

after severe pressure from my family, i have decided to attend to the nearest kh.

and a little history regarding my self: i became inactive and lost completely contact of the wt changes and "new light" 17 years ago.. everything seemed so odd and strange during the meeting.

latest technology, animated movies, watchtower web tv, a website that you can download everything, including km and wt study articles.

Fisherman

For someone who has been away for so long it looked like it was another religion, The only thing that looked very familiar, and confirmed that I was in WT meeting, was that the End is still near!!!

It is not the same experience one felt before. The music, the program, everything has changed. 2016 to 2017 are very critical years. Things are not the same in the org.