There are good reasons to belief that Paul wrote Hebrews. I am convinced he wrote it. Is there any any convincing evidence or argument that can validate the belief?
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Who wrote the book of Hebrews?
by Fisherman inthere are good reasons to belief that paul wrote hebrews.
i am convinced he wrote it.
is there any any convincing evidence or argument that can validate the belief?.
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Does anybody ever wonder why ?
by smiddy3 insupposedly, god jehovah, el , or whatever else he may have been called many thousands of years ago, or so the storys goes ,dealt with humans on a regular basis communicating with them for either good or bad.according to how they pleased him or displeased him.. so the bible record says.. how is it that god , jehovah or whatever other name you want to call him has not communicated with humans on any level for the past 2000 years ???.
in this scientific ,technological age ,wouldn`t you think this would be the time he would communicate with the potential dangers we face in potentially destroying ourselves and ruining the planets wildlife unless he interveined ?.
that`s if you even beleive that such a god actually exists .. and if he does why so silent in this day and age,?.
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And if he does why so silent in this day and age,
Another good one, smiddy. In brief, he does communicate with people today.
When Jesus converted water into wine, how many people realized what he did ? When a voice from heaven spoke saying this is my son the beloved, how many people heard the voice and the words and not some thunder or some noise? Another example is when Peter cut off the ear of the slave of the high priest, how many people realized that Jesus put it back? That is why the scriptures read: “the kingdom of God is in your midsts” and, “go subduing in the midsts of your enemies” and, “they listen but they do not hear.” God spoke in the past like an elephant in plain sight and people didn’t hear him. —-The same thing today. “ If you people this day had discerned the things having to do with peace, but now it has been secretly hidden from your eyes/ears” That’s how God does things. -
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The Great Tribulation
by Fisherman inwill the great tribulation hurt individuals more than what job, jesus, roman punishment, naz&i germany, hiroshima, jail, capital punishment, disease, pain, terror, horror, soldier in the battlefield or some terrible pain people experience this very moment?
how worse can pain and suffering get.
it is very common.
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free to reword
Never said he wasn’t. Only said that his version is also another version. —Context.
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The Great Tribulation
by Fisherman inwill the great tribulation hurt individuals more than what job, jesus, roman punishment, naz&i germany, hiroshima, jail, capital punishment, disease, pain, terror, horror, soldier in the battlefield or some terrible pain people experience this very moment?
how worse can pain and suffering get.
it is very common.
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stick with Jesus' version
You mean your version of what Jesus said.
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The Great Tribulation
by Fisherman inwill the great tribulation hurt individuals more than what job, jesus, roman punishment, naz&i germany, hiroshima, jail, capital punishment, disease, pain, terror, horror, soldier in the battlefield or some terrible pain people experience this very moment?
how worse can pain and suffering get.
it is very common.
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Zane, flooding the thread with the entire article doesn’t give it more weight. A reference to it suffices. Also it’s only commentary and because it specifically describes THE doesn’t invalidate that Jesus also prophesied about it. Early christians may have concluded that 70 was the fulfillment of Jesus prophecy referring to tribulation but since Revelation which was written after written after 70 also refers to a tribulation, namely the great tribulation that would is explain that JC would not return in kingdom power in 70 —“…and what will be the sign of your parousia.”
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The Great Tribulation
by Fisherman inwill the great tribulation hurt individuals more than what job, jesus, roman punishment, naz&i germany, hiroshima, jail, capital punishment, disease, pain, terror, horror, soldier in the battlefield or some terrible pain people experience this very moment?
how worse can pain and suffering get.
it is very common.
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1st centurygreat tribulation in Matthew as being the same as the one in Revelation. To do so totally dismisses his guarantee
Not only Mathew but in all three gospels. These also describe events such as separation of sheep and goats and miraculous signs in the heavens and seeing the son if man, etc.. These events did not transpire in 70. Jesus reference to not occurring again obviously refers to the great tribulation before Armageddon but Jesus was also foretelling the fall of Jerusalem and the great tribulation Jews would experience. That tribulation was not worldwide so the book of Rev also adds features and events to the greater fulfillment of the prophecy as JW interprets it. 2 great tribulations are involved: the one involved Jerusalem and the involving all of mankind and we at JW see they are parallel —and reasonably ironically, and poetically, Jesus was referencing both in the same prophecy as JW see it.
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The Great Tribulation
by Fisherman inwill the great tribulation hurt individuals more than what job, jesus, roman punishment, naz&i germany, hiroshima, jail, capital punishment, disease, pain, terror, horror, soldier in the battlefield or some terrible pain people experience this very moment?
how worse can pain and suffering get.
it is very common.
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World war 2 the the worst tribulation ever...we got over it.
Only to those individuals that felt it.
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Are you convinced what the Gospels say about Jesus is true?
by Fisherman inprobably, the greatest advocacy for the gospels is the jw publication: the greatest man that ever lived.
it convinced me.. everything else that the bible says about the resurrection and eternal life logically follows.. the testimony of a “witness” in court matters only if it is observation not commentary ( expert witness is also commentary): what did you see, what did you hear, what is the magnitude of your measurement.
not, are you convinced; that is only belief.
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Smid, you sound very reasonable and objective, that’s my approach at trier of facts.
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Are you convinced what the Gospels say about Jesus is true?
by Fisherman inprobably, the greatest advocacy for the gospels is the jw publication: the greatest man that ever lived.
it convinced me.. everything else that the bible says about the resurrection and eternal life logically follows.. the testimony of a “witness” in court matters only if it is observation not commentary ( expert witness is also commentary): what did you see, what did you hear, what is the magnitude of your measurement.
not, are you convinced; that is only belief.
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prove that Jesus actually existed
Today’s date
You also need to consider that proof doesn’t convince.
One outside source is Josephus. A Jewish reference to Jesus is the book Toledo Yeshu.
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The Great Tribulation
by Fisherman inwill the great tribulation hurt individuals more than what job, jesus, roman punishment, naz&i germany, hiroshima, jail, capital punishment, disease, pain, terror, horror, soldier in the battlefield or some terrible pain people experience this very moment?
how worse can pain and suffering get.
it is very common.
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The G.T. isn't going to erupt in mass deaths & destruction
” no flesh will be saved” that’s massive, so potentially it can.
But to those living it is empirical evidence of God and Christ.