Elmer, you remind me of someone that keeps honking the horn with a red light up ahead. Let them pass you then honk the horn behind them. Then they don’t like it. I’ve also told people with college degrees to return them and get their money back
Fisherman
JoinedPosts by Fisherman
-
28
Pawn to Queen 2034 anyone?
by Fisherman innot a hint of a new date for the great tribulation.
the attitude of jw is that they expect it immediately although the inter-lapping anointed allows for any additional extended time.
given the time of the end, the end comes after the good news is preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations with the internet and 108 years and tons of publications even in finnish.
-
-
-
28
Pawn to Queen 2034 anyone?
by Fisherman innot a hint of a new date for the great tribulation.
the attitude of jw is that they expect it immediately although the inter-lapping anointed allows for any additional extended time.
given the time of the end, the end comes after the good news is preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations with the internet and 108 years and tons of publications even in finnish.
-
-
Fisherman
Very, VERY soon!"
That is subjective and doesn’t specifically address WHEN. Soon, very soon, very very soon, very, very very soon could mean in a couple of minutes or in a 1000 years depends on how you define soon. Why JW are loyal and that gt is coming soon even if it takes another 2000 years does not explain when.
When doesn’t depend on loyalty. Or on how soon it feels or is or on how you play with the word soon.
“Tell us WHEN will these things be”
in October 1914 if still alive today would be 108 years
I understand very well.
Great tribulation or bust is the motto assuming the correctness of 1914: “ “My words will never pass away” is recorded in all 3 gospels.
-
28
Pawn to Queen 2034 anyone?
by Fisherman innot a hint of a new date for the great tribulation.
the attitude of jw is that they expect it immediately although the inter-lapping anointed allows for any additional extended time.
given the time of the end, the end comes after the good news is preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations with the internet and 108 years and tons of publications even in finnish.
-
-
Fisherman
We dedicated our lives to serve him (and his Organization) forever.
The subject here is not why but WHEN.
We at JW always figured that the 1914 generation would experience the complete sign of Jesus’s parousia including the “great tribulation”.
-
77
A question about the contemporary generation teaching following a conversation with a JW apologist
by Giles Gray ini would like to ask the ex-jws on this site to put their ‘apologists hat’ back on for a moment, so that i can go through the overlapping generation teaching in an attempt to make sense of it.
i apologise if these points have already been addressed on this site.a quick background for the reason for my request… having never confronted a jw apologist on the topic, i recently engaged with a jw regarding the official understanding of a ‘generation’ and unfortunately he didn’t have an answer to the points i was making.
i was left a little confused as to what the official jw response would/should be.so i was hoping that my thoughts below might be considered from an apologist’s perspective.the point in question relates to this section of the watchtower article below from 2008, as well as the jw.org video explanation of the overlapping generation:---:w08 2/15[box on page 25] can we calculate the length of “this generation”?the word “generation” usually refers to people of various ages whose lives overlap during a particular time period or event.
-
-
Fisherman
amazing generation overlap.
As a preschooler back in the 60’s, I remember a lot of people from the 1800’s. My great great grandparents were alive at the time born in the 1850’s who knew people that lived in the 1700’s, so I talked to people that talked to people from the 1700’s.
-
28
Pawn to Queen 2034 anyone?
by Fisherman innot a hint of a new date for the great tribulation.
the attitude of jw is that they expect it immediately although the inter-lapping anointed allows for any additional extended time.
given the time of the end, the end comes after the good news is preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations with the internet and 108 years and tons of publications even in finnish.
-
-
Fisherman
Not a hint of a new date for the great tribulation. The attitude of JW is that they expect it immediately although the inter-lapping anointed allows for any additional extended time. Given the time of the end, the end comes after the good news is preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations with the internet and 108 years and tons of publications even in Finnish. I don’t think JW are looking towards 2034 in the future. No more dates.
-
40
Why believe in a god?
by menrov inif you consider that the god they believe in:.
- cannot be seen or heard and is only known in books written by writers we do not know nor do we have the original writings- does not listen to prayers from believers for security, safety, health, survival, protection, rescue, food etc- promises things that have not come true though had plenty of time to act on the promises- does not provide what you need to live- let's you suffer, struggle, work etc equal to non-believers, treated equally.
........ how does a believer look at his/her parents if they hide themselves, do not provide for you (shelter, food etc), make promises but never live up to these, does not provide what you need to live, treats you like anyone else but not as their child?
-
-
Fisherman
Seems like theism doesn't make people any more decent.
How true. Read about the story of Israel and others.
-
171
Mass Shooting at Kingdom Hall in Hamburg, Germany
by EdenOne inmass shooting at a kingdom hall in hamburg, germany this evening.
at least 6 or 7 killed, dozens injured.
single shooter on the run, police doesn't rule out more shooters.
-
-
Fisherman
f you aren’t capable of violence when necessary then you will be a victim.
Legally, when you stop being a victim legally, then you become an assailant and can be accused, prosecuted and sued. The only people that get away with violence are criminals and cops. Law abiding citizens go to jail or are compelled to pay their sweet assailant or robber or mugger or burglar or molester. If you don’t give a hoot, be ready to pay and have a lot of fun in legal proceedings justifying your violence or in jail.
-
18
THE MOVERS AND SHAKERS AT BETHEL
by JT infyi--.
& other personnel.
writing correspondence personnel, patterson, ny (incomplete).
-
-
Fisherman
The most remarkable was Dean Songer. Most remarkable female was Carrol Sokolowski, very low key and out of the spotlight but amazing. Is Richard Potter still JW? Any of these men still in the forefront?
-
72
Prediction of Watchtower in a Few Years
by Foolednomore inkingdom halls will be the thing of the past.. conventions (mini assembly halls will still be going on) but will charge for attending and parking and always a donation.
elders will play a much smaller role since csa.
cart preaching will replace door to door.
-
-
Fisherman
I don’t think there are any more predicted dates by WT. Everybody is braced and in expectation. That nothing will happen is unthinkable. The core of JW will see it through even if they day of old age. Also, seems like there is expansion of media studios etc so the preaching work is full steam ahead. JW in general are not giving up the faith and people no matter how few are still coming in. JW religion is not going away.
-
53
1975 on the back burner
by Fisherman in“1975” still marks 6000 years from the creation of adam in wt calendar.
according to “all scriptures inspired” book, there is a gap between the creation of adam and the creation of eve and her marriage to adam.
it was at that point in time when eve was created that marked the end of the 6th creative day and the beginning of god’s rest, the 7th day as recorded in genesis.
-
-
Fisherman
DJW
I’ve made it clear on this forum that I am a JW.