feeling lost today.. it's the weekend, and i will be once again going home to an empty house, where my children won't be welcoming me home.
i haven't seen or talked to them in a very long time.
i won't be able to kiss their sweet faces, or hold them close to me, so i can tell them i love them.
Haven't ever responded to you before but my heart goes out to you ... I hope you get over your pain and find peace as you move on... but I agree with Simon - you never know what the future holds - may they snap out of it and enjoy your company once more...
Cheers
FM
i?m taking the leap, literally!
on saturday i?m going sky diving for the very first time!
i?m going with a group of about 30 people (we will be getting a group discount) and will be doing a tandem jump.
AIRBORNE. Glad you're back in one piece and enjoying the experience ...
It takes a lot to jump out of a perfectly good airplane...
i read and take in a lot on this board.
but i have yet to see hard facts.
what are the actual beliefs of jw's that you have found are false and what is the basis for it?
I agree with Bebu.
Instead of putting the burden on those who have researched the facts of why the WTS is not the one true religion why not put the burden on the WTS to prove they are "God's Channel".
All I've heard from their side is "fact" based on their own literature, which upon further investigation amounts to nothing more than misquoted references - inlulding their bible which has aready been addressed as mistranslated in parts by someone who was unqualified. So far nothing valid has come from the WTS in this respect.
FM
i read and take in a lot on this board.
but i have yet to see hard facts.
what are the actual beliefs of jw's that you have found are false and what is the basis for it?
I must admit it just seems they're to nice and well established to be a cult built on false teachings.
But there are too many sites, articles, books and testimnoy [which although not concrete I feel carries more weight than anything].
my favorite site is http://quotes.watchtower.ca
If this is enough hard evidence about their false prophesies -IN THEIR OWN WORDS - and doctrinal changes over the years.
Then happy door to door work ...
FM
i?m taking the leap, literally!
on saturday i?m going sky diving for the very first time!
i?m going with a group of about 30 people (we will be getting a group discount) and will be doing a tandem jump.
due to a problem with the server i was using for the maps i have had to move them so we can still have access to them and post them here.
so if you were wondering where we are from.
or how close you are to other jwd posters in your area just take a look.. ballistic has done an amazing job with the map of the uk you can find it at .
I'm in Houston - I tell you what ...
have you ever stopped to consider that the best thing we can do for ourselves as recovering cultists is simply to move on?
i know that is impossible for some, as they have deep connections with the organization due to family.
but for many the best move is simply to refuse to let the jws occupy much of our time and energy -- mental, physical and emotional.
yep
I am confused ...
i have a friend whos a jw and last october we started to hang out together (just us two).
everything was fine, we'd talk, watch movies etc.
then i started to feel different towards him, i started to like him.
today i went to college
This is a good start. As Maverick said you have a lot of passion. Try to channel it towards this present goal. College is a great source of intellectual enlightenment. And if you really want to pursue this relationship (which I highly discourage) you will need it. The WTS has a hold on all it's member's and they seem to do it through subtle yet agressive psycological principles. Like most here you should not pursue this, but if you do, before you go further - you should show him the truth. And this comes through knowledge and research. It won't be easy given that the WTS seems to be his families religious legacy...
i put on this mask to cover up what i was feeeling.
Others with more experience with this will tell you this is pretty common...this will be a way of life if you continue the relationship....
i know u are all fed up with this. giving me all that advice and me not taking any of it in.
Negative. This is far form the truth... everyone here wants to help others in your situation as those before them helped them and so forth (they helped me as well )... Just keep posting here anytime you feel you need to let it all out... someone is always here to give you their insight and experience .. a lot of it is stuff you don't want to hear, but you should take this advice before you get in too deep...
Hope you feel better and gain the strength to overcome this....
FM
i have a friend whos a jw and last october we started to hang out together (just us two).
everything was fine, we'd talk, watch movies etc.
then i started to feel different towards him, i started to like him.
Am ...
Welcome to the board. I've only been posting here a few weeks and am by no means a first hand expert on the JW's mind control. I am however married to one who is fading away. Luckily, I found out about their mind controll early on in our mariage and we have been making progress towards distancing from them day by day.
Although my wife was only in the early stages of her indotrination the controll was already taking a strong foothold in our family life. This resulted constant arguments and fights ... and this from a nonbaptized JW. Apparently after the dunk in the fish tank it gets even worse.
Our fight's culminated in strong statements and feelings making us doubt that we should've married to begin with, given that we were of different fatihs. This made for a difficult situation seeing as we have a child. One thing I've learned from this is that you should not get involved seriously with someone of different faith, especialy when they are devoted to one such as the JW's who require comitment to them above all else.
Nos and Aunt Hill are right, you should cut your losses now and find someone more spiritually compatible with you (if your looking for something serious). Either way if it's casual your looking for a JW is not the way to go... As you get serious unless your able to show him the truth you are in for a world of hurt ...
Sorry if this sounds harsh , but ask a lot of people who have taken years to heal in their post WTS lives ... the truth is brutal
