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  Please help with list of ways WTBTS has gone beyond scriptures...

  by FlyingHighNow in

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  i want to compile a list of ways the wtbts has gone beyond scripture.

  deciding that god will destroy you forever if you smoke cigarettes.

  i know someone will come back and say there have been 900 threads on this subject.

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  Love_Truth

  Wow! I think it would be easier to list the ways they haven't gone "beyond what is written".
  

  Right off the top of my head:

  Birthdays

  Holidays

  Smoking

  Drugs

  Limiting sexual intercourse positions within a heterosexual marriage.

  Breaking up families

  Hiding pedophiles

  Commanding regualr attendance at Assemblies amnd "meetings".

  "Field Service"

  Keeping records of hours, magazines and books placed,. etc.

  Blood transfusions (blood eating is unscriptural, but not transfusions, IMO)

  Focus on works, not faith

  Focus on external appearances, rather than the heart condition and fruitage of the spirit

  Condemnation, or judging, of non-JWs as worthy of death.

  Men with vasectomies can't be an MS or Elder (new one they came up with)

  GB claims to be meditor, rather than Jesus

  FDS lies

  In short, they turn their opinions into rules, and DF or DA anyone who disgrees with their provably unscriptiural rules.
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  Are you searching?

  by desib77 in

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  i've noticed that many of you are athiest or agnostic.

  is there anyone that is still searching?

  do any of you feel a void when it comes to faith and spirituality?

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  Love_Truth

  I'm a Theist, and have (I believe) a fair amount figured out, but lots to still figure out, so sure, I'm searching.........

  Love_Truth- likes it this way, thinks it'd be quite boring to know it "all".
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  God does exist...

  by czarofmischief in

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  earlier a thread emerged, as they do so often, on whether or not god existed.

  i stated that he does, unequivocally and without doubt.

  i refused to preface the statement with the phrase "i believe".

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  Love_Truth

  drwatson,

  First, thanks for the link- I'll take the information presented there into account. For the record, I'm not disputing the age of the Earth, Solar System, Universe, etc- just earthly artifacts and such that some conclude disprove Biblical accounts.

  Second- If I posted a link regarding a scientific article, a link to which could be found on the "Cartoon Network" website, would that make the article any less accurate?

  The reason I posted the angelfire site is that it has links to many good articles disputing BB theory. If you. Abaddon, or anyone else is disuaded from taking seriously links off of an angelfire or similar website, then do your own websearch, or look here:

  http://nowscape.com/big-ban2.htm

  or here, if you like (oh, my God! It's an apologetics site! Noooooooooooooo!!!, Run away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  http://www.apologeticspress.org/rr/rr2003/r&r0305a.htm

  and here:

  http://www.apologeticspress.org/rr/rr2003/r&r0306ad1.htm

  Happy reading,

  Love_Truth
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  To those with "ears" to "hear"...

  by AGuest in

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  once again, the spirit of my lord is upon me to call to the household of god, israel, and all those that 'go with' them...

  may you all have peace!

  very soon now, another time of "offering" will be upon you.

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  LittleToe,

  Good question. I think the answer(s) can be obtained by examining the verses , especially verses 27-31:

  27 Therefore, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. 28 A man ought to examine himself before he eats of the bread and drinks of the cup. 29 For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body of the Lord eats and drinks judgment on himself. 30 That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep. 31 But if we judged ourselves, we would not come under judgment. 32 When we are judged by the Lord, we are being disciplined so that we will not be condemned with the world.

  So, my answer would be that those who believe "once saved, always saved", even though they deliberatly practice sin afterwards (some "Born-Agains" I've known) make a mockery of "recognizing the body of the Lord" and rejecting the Lord's discipline.

  None of us are truly "worthy" as we all sin (at least accidentally) and fall short of God's glory. But to trample on the value of the "free gift" by deliberately bringing dishonor to Him is what I believe the judgement is referring to, among others who have callous diregard for his sacrifice or it's meaning. We should alll take stock of ourselves and see if we feel we're doing our best at present to put faith in God, His Son, his sacrifice, and how well this faith is seen in fruitage of the Spirit and other visible manifestations of our faith.

  You agree/disagree?

  Look forward to your thoughts, Ross.

  Cheers,

  Love_Truth.
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  I did it!!!! I applied for college!

  by MoeJoJoJo in

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  ...and was accepted for classes starting this summer.

  finally at the age of 33, i finally have my situation worked out so i can attend the local university...my kids are all in school now, won't have the guilty feelings resulting from pursuing a worldly career over pioneering now that i'm no longer a jw, etc.

  my major will be clinical lab technology-its a two-year degree.

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  Congrats!!

  You're doing the right thing, no doubt about it.

  BTW, I was "a good dub" and still attended college in the early 1980's. For all their fussing about it, they let you go once you decide to do it. I can't tell you how many said they'd wished they'd done the same as I. Poor folks, stuck in jobs they hated.

  Cheers,

  Love_truth.
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  God does exist...

  by czarofmischief in

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  earlier a thread emerged, as they do so often, on whether or not god existed.

  i stated that he does, unequivocally and without doubt.

  i refused to preface the statement with the phrase "i believe".

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  Abaddon,

  Yes I chose the Angelfire site because it has links to many of the more impotant refutations of the Big Bang theory, such as:

  http://nowscape.com/big-ban2.htm

  That you would judge the contents of a site in such an off the cuff and abrupt manner reveals volumes about you.

  Cheers,

  Love_Truth
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  Cast your vote: Is Jehovah a Myth?

  by frankiespeakin in

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  thanks to many fine posters i think we can make an intelligent choice.

  cast your vote and debate if you like.

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  Love_Truth

  Well, if you are asking does God (YHWH) exist, i'd say YES.

  In other words, NO, He's not a myth.

  If you are asking whether "Jehovah" is the accurate pronunciation of the Hebrew YHWH, I think that matter's already been settled, the answer is NO.

  Love_Truth- Vote(s) cast.
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  Would a true religion have to be perfect?

  by JH in

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  what are your thoughts on this?

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  Love_Truth

  I don't believe that which is perfect can arise from imperfection, without God's miraculous intervention.

  So, considering that Religion in our day will remain imperfect, because all of it's practicers are currently not perfect, the "True Religion" would be one that holds to a finite set of reasonably demonstrable "facts", that one must believe, and everthing else is recognized as a principle, interpretation, prophecy, etc, open to individual interpretation.

  Coincidentally, I've just described "my religion", non-denominational Christianity (as there are many (most?) denominations that don't fit that description).

  Love_Truth- That's my two cents.
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  God does exist...

  by czarofmischief in

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  earlier a thread emerged, as they do so often, on whether or not god existed.

  i stated that he does, unequivocally and without doubt.

  i refused to preface the statement with the phrase "i believe".

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  Love_Truth

  Rem,
  
  True, evolution does not attempt to explain spontaneous appearance of life (abiogenesis) or physical laws. However, to say it ?has nothing to do with? those is incorrect. It is not a misconception that "drastic jumps from one species to another", occur in the fossil record. That mutation, or adaptation/natural selection occurs both in nature and in experiments supports either conclusion, evolution or Creation..
  
  Physical laws factor into abiogenesis as well as evolution theory, thusly: One must at some point explain from whence came the ?primordial ooze? that produced life, if one believes such (I obviously don?t). One must explain how things came to be. Creation is a much more believable explanation, IMO.

  I don?t think it's strange that fossils in the geological strata are ?so conveniently sorted, from the oldest, most primitive organisms at the bottom to modern ones at the top?. Why? Again, we can theorize that God was experimenting with more primitive forms of created life, and learning from that experience, to mmake increasingly complex ones (just one of many explanations).

  
  My criticism of dating methods is not way out of date. One could argue that dating methods are much more accurate when paired with such methods as dendochronology (which is absolutely correct). Ice core samples are one of the more accurate methods of dating, as well, so I wouldn?t argue too much about that unless you have a specific example. It is carbon/K-AR dating that is subject to a huge margin of error in all dates. Sedimentary analysis is also prone to a large margin of error.

  Incidentally, back to physics, and the Creation of the Universe- have you seen the latest on the ?Big Bang? theory? There?s lots of information currently destroying that theory, such as:

  http://www.angelfire.com/az/BIGBANGisWRONG/

  
  
  Have a good day at work,

  Love_Truth
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  Looking After Widows and Orphans--James 1:27

  by blondie in

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  http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/palmbeach/sfl-bb14extramar14,0,7446169.story?coll=sfla-news-palm

  west lantana widow struggles to live on meager social security

  by sam tranum.

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  Love_Truth

  One of my favorite Scriptures for pointing out one of many errors the Witnesses make.

  James 1:27 (NWT): "The form of worship that is clean and undefiled from the standpoint of our God and Father is this: to look after orphans and widows..."

  So, if that is the form of worship that God wants, why do the dubs not do more to help widows and orphans? They do next to nothing. They should have orphanages, and places and programs to support widows in need.

  No wonder JWs rarely quote that Scripture.