Over 50% of Americans now have internet access and this is increasing rapidly. Also most JWs are as curious as anyone else. So, yes, they no longer have an information monopoly. The bad news for those of us who believe in Christian freedom is they too in the future may increasingly use the internet to snare people. Not long ago they experimented with TV ads but apparently these did not work all that well. At least nothing more has been heard of them in a while.
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Good news for us.Bad news for them.
by sleepy inwhats the good news?.
well in case you don't know in britian there is a government campain to make access available to the internet to every single person in britian within 5 years.. soon internet access will be wide spread via the tv without the need for a computer.. as i say thats bad news for the society.
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Slander in the congregation.
by VioletAnai inkaethra's comment on a sister's paranoia about slander behind her back got me thinking of my mums own suspicions.
she married my dad when he was an unbaptized person and this was frowned upon.
she'd been previously married and had to divorce cause he had another wife in another country.
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Apart from any Juducial Committe sin file stuff that is "normally" sealed for 7 years before locally "normally" destroyed though with a copy kept forever at the main branch, they do also mail or telephone comments about you to the next congregation. Is this true Christianity?
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MAJOR ALERT - UN 2nd LETTER on WTS/NGO
by hawkaw inon january 24, 2002 the interim head of the department of public information responded to my letter requesting disclosure of the watchtower file.
even though dpi still refuses to give me the file, they did present some more facts on criteria for association.
also dpi provides what their dpi committee alerted the wts too in the committee's 1992 letter of accreditation to the wts.. there was a delay in posting due to the fact that the dpi sent a wrong brochure to me that accompanied the letter.
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Latest KM Stats
by metatron inin november they got 966,528 pubs and 90,542 pioneers.. so, their exploitation of the wtc tragedy and 15 minute.
publisher policy has worked very well for them.. in december they got 968,126 publishers and 89,808 pioneers.
again, a big success in exploitation and 'paper' publishers.. i note that the pioneers dropped by 734 however.. maybe some more mass death will help.. metatron
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They also falsify stats at times. I've seen it done locally. My head count would be less than what they wrote it up as.
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My First Death Threat
by silentlambs ini just recieved this in an email message today.
silentlambs.
"i heard something about the arrangement of your assassination.
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It appears to be from a persistent bilingual (Portuguese, English) adult. As a precaution report it to the authorities. You are now a high-profile internationally known person involved in a controversial cause that evokes strong views for and against you, so take defensive actions.
I myself am not well-liked even here because I have tried and will keep trying to prod the ajwrb to do more than they have for a year now, and I published an obituary of a suicided young ministerial servant which some of his friends had asked be done and which they said some of his family wanted done. We must persevere. Look at the string below where I suggested something positive that ajwrb could do and you will see I am called "s--t."
May our heavenly Father remember those who persecute and those who are persecuted. Romans 13:1 says we can use the appropriate authorities which include local police, the FBI and interpol. They know the Olympics are about over and Dateline looms. Continue to save and archive the emails etc, and the best to you.
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Comments on the history of Jesus...
by speechless ini was recently reading a thread on deja (google groups) in regards to historical proof of jesus.
i found this statement inquisitve:.
the question is, why would any historian take note of an.
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who never wrote a book, never had his own house or place to call his own, etc etc .... answer: because he was God's only spirit son ever born to a human woman & perfect yet gave up his life for even the rock-bottom worst of us so that all might live again by resurrection, serving as our only perfect role model. see?
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WATCHTOWER QUOTE RE UN NGOs NAILS THEIR OWN ASSES!
by MadApostate ini'm pulling this out of the original thread since people are blowing by this as if it were nothing.. the blue portion appears on page 17 of the june 1, 1991 watchtower, in the article titled their refuge--a lie!, which criticizes "christendom" for seeking help from the united nations rather than jah.. .
"prayer and meditation at the united nations"-- robert muller .
"prayer, meditation and spirituality at the un are fascinating subjects.
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Delete... repost by accident ... see preceding post instead
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WATCHTOWER QUOTE RE UN NGOs NAILS THEIR OWN ASSES!
by MadApostate ini'm pulling this out of the original thread since people are blowing by this as if it were nothing.. the blue portion appears on page 17 of the june 1, 1991 watchtower, in the article titled their refuge--a lie!, which criticizes "christendom" for seeking help from the united nations rather than jah.. .
"prayer and meditation at the united nations"-- robert muller .
"prayer, meditation and spirituality at the un are fascinating subjects.
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Alan, Patio said below here it's "off the CD-Rom with surrounding paragraphs. Paragraph 11 is in blue. [quote]*** w91 6/1 17-18 Their Refuge-A Lie!" Meaning from the Watchtower itself - bravo Madapple, maybe you're not so rotten after all :) P.S. why don't some of you fine gents email Randy & Kent to look at this string!
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Sodom & Gomorrah - Nuclear Holocaust?
by Celtic inwere the ancient civilisations far more technologically advanced than previously has been given credit for?
did they possess advanced weaponry systems?
do the scriptures back this up?.
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Is this the right one? Ancient Nuclear Warfare
“On August 29th, 1997, it's gonna feel pretty f---ing real to you too. Anybody not wearing 2 million sunblock is gonna have a real bad day. Get it?” --Sarah Connor, Terminator 2
"Thank you, India." --Alanis Morissette
There is evidence that the Rama empire (now India) was devastated by nuclear war. The Indus valley is now the Thar desert, and the site of the radioactive ash found west of Jodhpur is around there.
Consider these verses from the ancient (6500 BC at the latest) Mahabharata:
...a single projectile
Charged with all the power of the Universe.
An incandescent column of smoke and flame
As bright as the thousand suns
Rose in all its splendour...
a perpendicular explosion
with its billowing smoke clouds...
...the cloud of smoke
rising after its first explosion
formed into expanding round circles
like the opening of giant parasols...
..it was an unknown weapon,
An iron thunderbolt,
A gigantic messenger of death,
Which reduced to ashes
The entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas.
...The corpses were so burned
As to be unrecognisable.
The hair and nails fell out;
Pottery broke without apparent cause,
And the birds turned white.After a few hours
All foodstuffs were infected...
...to escape from this fire
The soldiers threw themselves in streams
To wash themselves and their equipment.Until the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, modern mankind could not imagine any weapon as horrible and devastating as those described in the ancient Indian texts. Yet they very accurately described the effects of an atomic explosion. Radioactive poisoning will make hair and nails fall out. Immersing oneself in water gives some respite, though it is not a cure.
When excavations of Harappa and Mohenjo-Daro reached the street level, they discovered skeletons scattered about the cities, many holding hands and sprawling in the streets as if some instant, horrible doom had taken place. People were just lying, unburied, in the streets of the city. And these skeletons are thousands of years old, even by traditional archaeological standards. What could cause such a thing? Why did the bodies not decay or get eaten by wild animals? Furthermore, there is no apparent cause of a physically violent death.
These skeletons are among the most radioactive ever found, on par with those at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. At one site, Soviet scholars found a skeleton which had a radioactive level 50 times greater than normal. Other cities have been found in northern India that show indications of explosions of great magnitude. One such city, found between the Ganges and the mountains of Rajmahal, seems to have been subjected to intense heat. Huge masses of walls and foundations of the ancient city are fused together, literally vitrified! And since there is no indication of a volcanic eruption at Mohenjo-Daro or at the other cities, the intense heat to melt clay vessels can only be explained by an atomic blast or some other unknown weapon. The cities were wiped out entirely.
While the skeletons have been carbon-dated to 2500 BC, we must keep in mind that carbon-dating involves measuring the amount of radiation left. When atomic explosions are involved, that makes then seem much younger.
Interestingly, Manhattan Project chief scientist Dr J. Robert Oppenheimer was known to be familiar with ancient Sanskrit literature. In an interview conducted after he watched the first atomic test, he quoted from the Bhagavad Gita: "'Now I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds.' I suppose we all felt that way." When asked in an interview at Rochester University seven years after the Alamogordo nuclear test whether that was the first atomic bomb ever to be detonated, his reply was, "Well, yes, in modern history."
Ancient cities whose brick and stonewalls have literally been vitrified, that is, fused together, can be found in India, Ireland, Scotland, France, Turkey and other places. There is no logical explanation for the vitrification of stone forts and cities, except from an atomic blast.
Another curious sign of an ancient nuclear war in India is a giant crater near Bombay. The nearly circular 2,154-metre-diameter Lonar crater, located 400 kilometres northeast of Bombay and aged at less than 50,000 years old, could be related to nuclear warfare of antiquity. No trace of any meteoric material, etc., has been found at the site or in the vicinity, and this is the world's only known "impact" crater in basalt. Indications of great shock (from a pressure exceeding 600,000 atmospheres) and intense, abrupt heat (indicated by basalt glass spherules) can be ascertained from the site.
The echoes of ancient atomic warfare in southern Asia continue to this day, with India and Pakistan currently threatening each other. Modern India is proud of its nukes, likening them to "Rama's Arrow". Similarly, Pakistan would love to use its Islamic atomic bombs on India. Ironically, Kashmir, possibly the site of an earlier atomic war, is the focus of this conflict. Will the past repeat itself in Pakistan and India?
Sodom and Gomorrah... Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
The destruction of the Biblical cities Sodom and Gomorrah (a dense column of smoke rose rapidly, a cloud rained burning sulfur, the surrounding soil was turned into sulfur and salt so that not even a blade of grass could grow there, and anyone in the vicinity turned to salt) sounds like a nuclear blast. If the pillars of salt at the end of the Dead Sea (which are still there today) were ordinary salt, they would have disappeared with the periodic rains. Instead, these pillars are of a special, harder salt, only created in a nuclear reaction such as an atomic explosion.
Let's also look at Deuteronomy 32:32-33: "Their vine grows from the vine of Sodom, from the vineyards of Gomorrah. Their grapes are poison, and their clusters are bitter. Their wine is the venom of snakes, the deadly poison of vipers." Radioactive plants are known to be dangerous to eat.
Other cities have been similarly destroyed: Admah and Zeboiim (Deuteronomy 29:23), Edom and Teman (Jeremiah:49:7-22), and Moab and Amman (Zephanian 2:9). (Why are these cities always destroyed in pairs?) In each account, there are references to Sodom and Gomorrah. We now know what happened to Babylon: "Babylon, the most glorious of kingdoms, the flower of Chaldean culture, will be devastated like Sodom and Gomorrah when God destroyed them. Babylon will never rise again. Generation after generation will come and go, but the land will never again be lived in. Nomads will refuse to camp there, and shepherds will not allow their sheep to stay overnight." --Isaiah, 13:19-20.
But didn't all this happen after the flood? The flood was the ending of the Ice Age, which meant the end of Atlantis. But there is a direct correlation between areas 4,920 feet or higher above sea level and centers of agriculture. Apparently the tsunamis didn't get any higher than that. Since there are very high mountains in the Rama Empire, it lasted until it was destroyed in nuclear war a thousand years after the "sinking" of Atlantis, so that would be 8600 BC. Since Babylon was destroyed in nuclear war, it must be a lot older than we think. The skeletons must appear younger to archaeologists, just like those in Mohenjo-Daro.
Osiris
Atlantis and Rama were not the only advanced civilizations in the world at that time. The Mediterranean was a large and fertile valley. This ancient civilization, pre-dating dynastic Egypt, was known as Osiris. The Nile river came out of Africa, as it does today, and was called the River Stix. However, instead of flowing into the Mediterranean Sea at the Nile Delta in northern Egypt, it continued into the valley, and then turned westward to flow in the deepest part of the Mediterranean Valley where it created a large lake and then flowed out between Malta and Sicily, and south of Sardinia into the Atlantic at Gibraltar (the Pillars of Hercules). When the sea level rose, it flooded the Mediterranean Basin, destroying the Osirians' great cities and forcing them to move to higher ground. This theory helps explain the strange megalithic remains found throughout the Mediterranean. It is an archaeological fact that there are more than 200 known sunken cities in the Mediterranean. That must be where the Pyramids came from.
Given that the ancients had nuclear capabilities, we know that they had the technology of 1945 at the earliest. Many things had to be discovered and invented before a nuclear explosion could take place. We do not know exactly what technology they had. However, since there are no people in space, we know they never colonized space, probably because they had no spacecraft. Even the wooden or plastic objects that weren't submerged would have disintegrated by now, so we have no idea what they had that was made out of those materials. But we do know that they used crystals. Aside from being used for clocks and radios, crystals can also be used to store information. A 1-cm cubic crystal could store 125 gigabytes, or as much as eight Pentium III processors. Maybe when we develop such technology (according to Moore's law, it will probably be by 2020), we will be able to access what they put on their crystal computers.
The Agastya Samhita, an ancient Indian text, gives directions on how to make a battery: "Place a well-cleaned copper plate in an earthenware vessel. Cover it first by copper sulfate and then moist sawdust. After that put a mercury-amalgamated-zinc sheet on top of an energy known by the twin name of Mitra-Varuna. Water will be split by this current into Pranavayu and Udanavayu. A chain of one hundred jars is said to give a very active and effective force." By the way, Mitra-Varuna is now called cathode-anode, and Pranavayu and Udanavayu are to us oxygen and hydrogen, respectively.
According to the Bible, anyone who touched the Ark of the Covenant, which contained the Ten commandments, would die. (Numbers 4:15) The only way touching an object can kill a person is if electricity is flowing through it.
Blood type O is characteristic of the native races of the Americas (the Bororo, Mayans and Incas are all virtually 100% group O, and the Navajos are 73% group O), the Canarian Guanches of the Basques of France and Spain, the Scandinavians, the Celts of the British Isles and the Atlantic coasts of France, as well as certain peoples of Polynesia and Indonesia. All these areas have ancient megalithic structures. The Atlanteans would have had to have blood type O, as do 60% of Caucasians in the United States. So at least some Atlanteans were Caucasian. It is being discovered that there were Caucasians in many of the ancient civilizations. (Click here for evidence.) While racists will say that it's because Caucasians are the master race and brought civilization to the other races, I would say it's because many Atlanteans were Caucasian. Mesopotamia started shortly after the Ice Age ended, and is said to be the cradle of civilization. Guess who founded it?
Piri Reis Map
This map is from a combination of the Piri Reis map (1513) and a modern Mercator projection. Unfolded at obvious points the map fits well over a modern Mercator, with Europe, Africa and South America in perfect alignment, 56 years before Mercator introduced this projection which stretched latitude and longitude into equal areas for accurate navigation. The Reis map, heavy line, overlays the modern Mercator, light line, almost perfectly. The light line rectangle with the clipped corner is the outside edge of the Reis map. Reis explained his use of graphic information collected from as far back as Alexander the Great.
Sixteen major cities are illustrated on the map; eleven in Africa, four in the Americas and only one in Europe. In addition, sixty nine minor cities are plotted; twelve in the Americas.
This map is the first to correctly illustrate the entire Atlantic, covering both shores from approximately 50 degrees north to 60 degrees south. Columbus, of course, never traveled to the north and south shores of the Americas.
Just some of the underwater ruins so far found include:
A pyramid explored by Dr. Ray Brown on the sea floor off the Bahamas in 1970. Brown was accompanied by 4 divers who also found roads, domes, rectangular buildings, unidentified metallic instruments, and a statue holding a mysterious crystal containing miniature pyramids. The metal devices and crystals were taken to Florida for analysis at a university there. What was discovered was that the crystal amplified energy that passed through it.
Ruins of roads and buildings found off Binini Island in the 1960's by the photographed and published expeditions of Dr Mansan Valentine. Similar ruins were also photographed off Cay Sal in the Bahamas. Similar underwater ruins were found off Morocco and photographed 50 to 60 feet underwater.
A huge 11 room pyramid found 10,000 feet under water in the mid Atlantic Ocean with a huge crystal top, as reported by Tony Benlk.
A 1977 report of a huge pyramid found off Cay Sal in the Bahamas, photographed by Ari Marshall's expedition, about 150 feet underwater. The pyramid was about 650 feet high. Mysteriously the surrounding water was lit by sparkling white water flowing out of the openings in the pyramid and surrounded by green water, instead of the black water everywhere else at that depth.
A sunken city about 400 miles off Portugal found by Soviet expeditions led by Boris Asturua, with buildings made of extremely strong concrete and plastics. He said "the remains of streets suggests the use of monorails for transportation". He also brought up a statue.
A marble acropolis underwater across five acres of fluted columns raised on pillars.
In 1954, a strange object was found in Colombia, and experts concluded that it was a model of an airplane.Approximately 2 inches long the object was worn as a pendant on a neck chain. It was classified as Sinu, a pre-Inca culture from A.D. 500 to 800. Both Sanderson and Dr. Arthur Poyslee of the Aeronautical Institute of New York concluded it did not represent any known winged animal. In fact, the little artifact appears more mechanical than biological. For example, the front wings are delta-shaped and rigidly straight edged, very un-animal-like.
The rudder is perhaps the most un-animal but airplane-like item. It is right-triangle, flat-surfaced, and rigidly perpendicular to the wings. Only fish have upright tail fins, but none have exclusively an upright flange without a counter-balancing lower one. Adding to the mystery, an insignia appears on the left face of the rudder, precisely where ID marks appear on many airplanes today. The insignia is perhaps as out-of place as the gold model itself, for it has been identified as the Aramaic or early Hebrew letter beth or B. This may indicate that the original plane did not come from Colombia, but was the product of a very early people inhabiting the Middle East who knew the secret of flying. These had to be the Osirians.
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This happend in our congregation about the UN
by caballoSentado indear friends.
this is my story (in development).... firstly, since my native language is spanish, bear with any erros in writing & simple sentences, please.. i a jw 45 years old, married, 2 sons (15 & 10 y.o.
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Tambien lo que puedes hacer es enviar la informaciacion por el correo a otros TJ. Haganla como sabes es mejor para tu situacion local. Si puedes operar de manera abierta, bien. Si no, pues hay otros maneras de informar a muchos otros de los hermanos sobre los escandelos tocante a las Naciones Unidos y la policia pedofilia.