Posts by Bulldog

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A Wrinkle In Time

by TD in

as the skipping rope hit the pavement, so did the ball.

look at me, charles.

"charles almost came out.

I was in grade five when our teacher read "A Wrinkle in Time" to us, and I remember being very alarmed at first, as my "bible trained conscience" warned me that this was crossing the evil line, and I asked to be excused. My teacher refused, explaining that this was a lovely book, and I guiltily started to enjoy the book, and looked forward to it very much.

My brother was dying of a brain tumor at this time, and I cried and cried at the passage you just quoted, as I wanted so badly to bring my brorher back, and was unable to help him. I felt like i had let him down, and it was somehow my fault.

I loved the Narnia books, and read them guiltily, noticing the parallels even back then at that tender age.

I have just recently bought the Lord of the Rings Trilogy, and when I get time will read them. I remember visiting an elders wife who encouraged me to read them, and being shocked, and telling her my conscience wouldn't allow it. I also judged her for reading "bodice rippers" romances, but then with much guilt secretly read hers at her house.

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The TRUTH for dummies. Chapter 1

by beaker in

being only newly freed from the wts, there are many people who were my friends that i would like to be able to explain the truth about many of the points raised on this board.

so i have decided to compile a publication that i can mail to them with short succinct, hardhitting reasoning on areas where the wts is misleading them and also areas where they are saying one thing but practising another.

i would like to be able to limit the explanations to one topic per page with the hope that if there is not too much too read they may just bother to read it.

Bulldog

For me, doctrinal issues would have meant squat to me,

I started to feel disturbed after reading about cults and mind control, and Orwells 1984 (all non apostate sources) and it bothered me that the Society would use these teqniques I started to realize that Jehovah would NOT use this way to spread the "truth". Truth should stand up on its own, not by mind control.

So while some may be disturbed by doctrinal issues, false prophecies, usually there has to be some other doubt first, such as abuse, mistreatment, injustice or some other trigger to snap the mind out of the mind control thinking, and open it to factual information about the WTBTS. Otherwise they are blinded by the extreme thought training.

I have not suffered mistreatment or abuse by the JWs and for the most part it was a "positive" experience, so it wasn't til I started to open my mind to comparisons to other cults that the bells started ringing, but it took years for it to come full circle, I even went to Bethel with doubts, which were confirmed for me by the fact that you canNOT leave in a honorable way if you decide after you fulfill your year obligation, that Bethel is not for you. You WILL have a "black" (their word) letter sent to your congregation unless you have a REALLY good reason for leaving.

I would use non threatening sources, like cult info sites. talking to ex members of other cults about their experiences, and letting the person you are trying to help DRAW THEIR OWN CONCLUSIONS. Ask questions that are kind and loving, mirroring the JWs own methods of speaking, don't be negative at all and NEVER slag the borg until they are there too.

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Fudging on "Field Service Report"

by Clinton in

when i was a jdub i used to write down whatever hours i wanted to write down.

when i was pioneering for 7 years i would add a few hours to my time each month so that i wouldn?t fall too far behind.

even when i wasn?t pioneering though i would inflate my hours a bit sometimes so i wouldn?t have the elders hounding me about my time and also so i could hold a ?position?.

Bulldog

I was too deeply programmed in mind control to ever outright lie about my time when I was pioneering, "Jehovah knows".

But, as a pioneer in a rural area where the town territory was severely overworked, it was considered ok to make a call in town, home or not, then drive for four hours to a really rural terrritory, eat lunch, then call on a crazy old hermit way in the bush, then drive back the four hours and make another call in town, and count 12 hours. Wheee! What a glorious waste of time!!!

I also had many "return visits" where the people were living about an hour from town, were old and lonely, always made tea and cookies for me, took the mags, but had no real interest in JW religion, but took the mags to get regular visits. I liked the old people, felt that I was doing something valuable in listening to their stories, and checking up on them regularly, shoveling the porch or driveway sometimes, and it was WAY nicer than going door to door at -20 celcius or worse, bugging people and letting the heat out. We would often stay for an hour or more, and sometimes had four or more people waiting in the van, til we came back, all counting time!!

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adding a new puppy

by five_crew in

last night we made a leap and added a puppy to our home.

we have a seven month old terrier-chihuahua mix already.

we added a bigger dog into the mix.

Bulldog

the only thing I would be really careful about is that the big, new pup doesn't play too roughly with the little one, cause I have seen where a big dog in just playing with chihuahua type dogs, have broken limbs, so don't leave them alone together, and if the pup gets too rough, seperate them, and the pup will learn that he is not allowed to play rough.

The growling and such from the older smaller dog is fine, he is just teaching the pup whos boss, and is very unlikely to hurt the big pup, and is a sign that the smaller dog is insecure about this big galoot.

They will get used to each other, and soon will likely be friends.

Have fun!

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Turn away from these wicked ways!

by Proud Witness in

jw
friends

well as you would have guessed from my name, i am a proud witness and i feel obliged to preach to you about the promises that our wonderful creator, jehovah god, has promised each and every one of us, of any race or background.

i know that you already know what he has told us through his word, but i am curious to wonder why you have chosen to jump off the narrow road which leads to everlasting life.

is it because you have had a bad experience in god's organization?

Bulldog

Well, even though you are a yanker of legs, I don't give a whooping funt, it was kinda fun! It helps me reaffirm my own decisions, and clarify my mind on many points, so that when someone I care about asks me, I will be able to be a lot more articulate.

By the way, if you were a "loyal JW" you would not post your real picture on the avatar, and you certainly would not post the half naked and lookin like a good time is goin on, avatar. That was my tip that you were a yanker. You would have used a "modest" non sexy picture of virtue.

welcome to the board!

"Hold Fast to the TRUTH--Make sure of all things!"

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I found a letter to the GB

by Etude in

it?s been a while since i?ve posted anything on the board.

i have missed all of you with whom i exchanged stories and i?m really curious about all the new discussions i?ve missed.

recently, i retired.

Bulldog

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If you have any bodies buried and you live near me,,,,

by kls in

jw
friends

you better make sure you bury them really deep cause my dog will find it and bring it home.

i have a 10mth old bloodhound and you would not believe the dead stuff she has brought me.

in the past 3wks i have had skin's , skulls , leg bone's and i have no idea what yesterdays was.

Bulldog

I have an American Bulldog and she also has the lovely habit of digging up long dead things and bringing them up to the light of day, with all the moose bones and deer bones here it looks like a crypt.

She also helps add to the dead population by killing the odd stray cat or chicken and burying til it is ripe and rolling on it. The smell is just nasty.

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Anyone here from Northern BC?

by Bulldog in

jw
friends

just wondering if any of you are from the great white north of bc?.

i am, and i would like to meet anyone from up here.

esp if you like dogs, as i breed and train american bulldogs.

Bulldog

Just wondering if any of you are from the Great White North of BC?

I am, and I would like to meet anyone from up here. Esp if you like dogs, As I breed and train American Bulldogs.

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Animals in the New System

by Bulldog in

has there been previous discussions on the nature of animals in the new system?

most people seem to think that the animals will suddenly become completely different than they are today.

lions and tigers will eat hay, not meat, etc, but if you think about animal natures and the perfect system that exists in the animal food chain, it doesn't make sense.. what would a horse be if it had no fear of predators?

Bulldog

Has there been previous discussions on the nature of animals in the new system? Most people seem to think that the animals will suddenly become completely different than they are today. Lions and tigers will eat hay, not meat, etc, but if you think about animal natures and the perfect system that exists in the animal food chain, it doesn't make sense.

What would a horse be if it had no fear of predators? His entire nature and raison de etre, is a grazing watching, fear based creature. Without that would he still be a horse?

Also, the entire world ecosystem would have to change too.

I can see making the animals so that they wont eat man, but I cant see a complete reworking of creation.

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Do you think some people are better off with the borg?

by new light in

i work with someone who is df'ed, actually my cousin.

he is trying to get reinstated.

we got into a semi-heated discussion and i gave him a lot of my anti-wt viewpoints, trying to get him to think for himself.

Bulldog

For some people it is more like the Matrix, and they don't want to be unplugged.