I can only say that having an elder tell me this story in regard to how Jehovah feels towards my daughter really sent me over the top along with a myriad of other things. The worst part was he seemed to be enjoying himself when he said this to me. That day after these things were said I went home in shock told my husband I was sick and crawled in bed for 3 days. I continually have flashbacks to this conversation--many times waking up in the night with this horrible conversation in my head. I was handed this video to watch after this conversation--it further added to my trauma. Months later I sought therapy. This elder has daughters and I am afraid for them. Threatening your children with this type of sicko stuff will surely do some serious damage to their lives.
cyber-sista
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WT WARNING EXAMPLES: Anybody see this video?
by cyber-sista inwarning examples for our times was a wt release video that came out a couple of years ago.
at the times i was given it to watch so i could know the seriousness of my daughter marrying an unbeliever (any of you who have heard my story know she had never become a believer herself, so technically was an unbeliever too, thus not qualified to marry a believer either, but made guilty by association with the jws--catch 22 situation).
anyway, the video horrified me at the time.
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WT WARNING EXAMPLES: Anybody see this video?
by cyber-sista inwarning examples for our times was a wt release video that came out a couple of years ago.
at the times i was given it to watch so i could know the seriousness of my daughter marrying an unbeliever (any of you who have heard my story know she had never become a believer herself, so technically was an unbeliever too, thus not qualified to marry a believer either, but made guilty by association with the jws--catch 22 situation).
anyway, the video horrified me at the time.
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WARNING EXAMPLES FOR OUR TIMES was a WT release video that came out a couple of years ago. At the times I was given it to watch so I could know the seriousness of my daughter marrying an unbeliever (any of you who have heard my story know she had never become a believer herself, so technically was an unbeliever too, thus not qualified to marry a believer either, but made guilty by association with the JWs--catch 22 situation)
Anyway, the video horrified me at the time. It was well acted and filmed as far as the WT videos go--and more realistic than many of them
Anyway, it was the story of the young men who strayed over into one of the pagan nations in search of some hot pagan women. One of them brought the pagan woman back into their tent and the high priest drove a tent peg through their groins (so there was of screaming and such)
The film was creepy in many ways and started off with a voice over with a dreamy hypnotic feel to it. It felt so strange in many ways. I had to throw it away after watching it--it made me feel so weird and twisted. At the time all in the congo were saying what a wonderful video it was and a sister brought it to over my house again one day hoping that I would watch it again saying how wonderful it all was!
Not long after that in a KM it was advised to have your chiildren watch this video over and over again. At the time it made me sick to think of small children being exposed to the disturbing message of this film. I wasn't fully out of the Org then--still being under their emotional control and trying to expose things that I felt were wrong at the time. It was a surreal time for me and watching this film and it's message was unusually disturbing to me at the time. (An elder had already told me this story of the high priest/ tent peg/groin thing in regard to my daughter--saying this is the way Jehovah feels about her marriage to an unbeliever)
Did anyone else see this film--if so what did it do to your mind when you watched it? I have grown so highly suspicious of anything WT these days I almost believe this tape was created as a serious brainwashing tool...
Any thoughts on this one???
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New titles for old titles!
by cyberguy inthe watchtower announcing jehovah?s kingdom ?
the craptower, announcing self edification since 1919. .
awake!
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The Spoof that Leads to Eternal Strife
All Scriptures inspired by frauds and criminals
Our Kingdom Misery
Making your family life Crappy
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What was the funniest Bush moment in last nights debate?
by IronGland infirst responders, nuclear safety, etc.).
"fighting so vociferously.
"of course i know it was osama bin laden who attacked us!
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sept 10 reference was the night before last debate--sorry
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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 10-03-04A WT Study (Abbreviated)
by blondie incomments you will not hear at the sunday 10-03-04a wt study (august 15, 2004 issue) abbreviated
review comments
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We do well to avoid the company of those who dwell on negative thoughts
(Such as those at the meetings where everyone but JWs are spoken of as doomed to destruction, that non-JWs are "corpses")?
EXACTLY!!! The longer I am away from JW thinking (and seeing a therapist--who by the way is quite shocked by many of the JW teachings) I realize how much of the thinking that I was indoctrinated with were extremely negative.JWs view everything outside of the Org as negative or as of little use. About the time this magazine about the hobbies came out I got a very sad email from a sister who has always been seriously depression. She had boxed up many of her hobbies and things as she felt as if they were preventing her from fully serving Jehovah and because of her health and depression she never could and felt terribly guilty about it, but obviously she wasn't happy about getting rid of these few little things that brought some joy into her life. She said she was sitting there in her empty living room feeling totally numb not knowing what to do next. (Now I wonder if she had just received this magazine).
JWs are taught to view everything with suspicion and even hatred and paranoia--books, magazines, movies, people who are not JW. It creates such an atmosphere of nevativity in ones life no surprise many JWs suffer from depression as their whole view of the world is depressed.
Go to bead about the same time every night?.
Blondie certainly this is a typo. I had visions of JWs sitting around a table making strands of love beads at night. I wonder what would happen to those few ultra obeidient JWs if the WT ever made a typo like this?....
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What was the funniest Bush moment in last nights debate?
by IronGland infirst responders, nuclear safety, etc.).
"fighting so vociferously.
"of course i know it was osama bin laden who attacked us!
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He said something about the events of Sept 10.....referring to 9/11? Not very funny, but a major slip up.
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Letter From Society Say Going To a JW/Non-JW Wedding Has Consequences!
by minimus inmy mother called me in a tizzy saying that her friend heard that letters were read and a talk was given in 2 different congregations saying that the society's new policy is that if a elder, m.s.
or pioneer attends an "unequaled" wedding----they will be removed from their exemplary positions because they are "disloyal to jehovah god"........what do you think about this one?
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This has been true for awhile--believe me I know. It happened with my daughter 2 years ago. She was not baptized nor had she ever made attempts to become a JW and neither was my hubby. But because she had attended the meetings with me for several years the elders judged that in her heart she was a JW and therefore accountable to JW laws (she was getting married to a non-JW also) Catch 22--she was not qualified to marry a JW either. Anyway, to make a long story short the elders made it into a big ordeal --contacting the local branch and the society and the CO. We were informed that anyone with a position who attended her wedding would be removed from their position--it was the rules now. They actually said that any JW who attended the wedding was not being loyal to Jehovah and suggested that I not go myself to make my position clear. So what position is that I had to ask myself.?...That I will spoil my loving daughter's wedding for countless involved and my relationship with my daughter, husband, son-in-law--his family, my father and the rest of my non-JW family, along with being viewed by the community as an unbalanced person? And the point of that being??? The elders said it would be a good witness to the community for me to not attend??? (I felt the opposite)
I was literally tortured by the Org on account of these things. I was told that this is one of the swords that divides families and my choice in the end was to prove my loyalty to the Org by doing things that would separate me from my family.
Yes, there are consequences and you can be removed from a "position" for attending a wedding, whether they be a baptized JW or otherwise.
We were told this 2 years ago by the elders the society and the CO who I had a personal conversation with-- and it had been the rule for a while.
I attended my daughter's wedding--and we are both now shunned by many in the local congo. I no longer attend meetings and will never again for this and countless other reasons related to this COLD HEARTED ORG...
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Hello To All
by homme perdu ini have been raised all my life in the jehovah's witnesses organization.
i am not baptised.
after recently reading reasoning from the scriptures i began to question the organization.
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Aloha,
Yes, I think many of us here went into shock when we first found out what really goes on behind the WT wall. The UN scandal was an eye opener for me, along with the silent lambs program, plus the many things that happened to me personally and to others I knew while under the control of the Org. Though I had been aware that much was amiss in WT land over the years I had stuffed it all in a box and kept myself in a state of denial. Finding sites such as this and knowing that there are thousands of others who are leaving the Org every year has been an eye opener too, but it is also a validation for me of all the things that I had suspected were wrong over the years. It is a difficult transistion but one that was necessary for me in order to preserve my life, my love and my sanity. Just recently I had to explain to someone why I wasn't "going to the meetings" anymore. I told them that it was not a healthy thing for me and my family--end of story. Hope you can find your way through all of this. Get some help if you need too (therapy--counceling,etc.)--this site is great too. The best to you,
cybs
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Finally my baby has arrived!
by sunshineToo inhe was born on aug.30 after 24 hours of labor.
he was 7 lb 13oz., and 20 1/2 in.
he lost 10 oz.
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Congratulations!!!
Babies are so sweet. Enjoy this precious time together--it goes fast and don't worry about the housework--it will always be there. Lots of love and hugs to you and baby. Get as much rest as you can and eat very well (very important)--fresh air and sunshine too!. You will feel a lot better real soon and the pain will pass--give it some time.
cybs
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Epignosis (``Accurate Knowledge") : Are They Kidding?
by Room 215 ingiven their incessant boasting of how they alone of all religions have a monopoly on ``accurate knowledge," it strikes me as amusing how oblivious the jws are to their vulnerability to being ``blindsided" by the laundry list of all-but-unanwerable questions lurking out there for them: questions not only relating to their absurd, bankrupt chronology, but also the obvious dilemmas in holdong stubbornly to biblical inerrancy (i.e., the global flood, jonah, virgin birth, etc.).
it almost seems that they have to rely on the public's ignorance/apathy to make any progress in their door-to-door ``ministry.".
my experience has been that it doesn't take too may well-placed questions to dent their arrogant smugness.
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If the knowledge was accurate why does it keep changing and proven to be inaccurate? When I first started studying this accurate knowledge business was deeply impressed upon my mind "this means everlasting life their taking in accurate knowledge"...I am no longer impressed.