jeece, i'm feeling bad i missed it now - thanks a bunch
boa
i'll start planning NOW for next yrs i guess
ok, i know everyone is probably tired of the subject by now.
i haven't had internet access all week so i didn't get a chance to tell about my memorial experience.. not that it is exciting in the least bit.. i arrived 15 minutes early and sat in the middle of the meeting hall (actually a school cafeteria).
this was the first meeting i've been to with my former congregation in about five years now with the exception of a funeral that i basically snuck in and out of.. my whole point in going this year was to prove to myself i am no longer afraid of these people.
jeece, i'm feeling bad i missed it now - thanks a bunch
boa
i'll start planning NOW for next yrs i guess
when you were at bethel..what sucked most ?breakfast/daytext/table overseer.monday night wt studytuesdays bookstudy at one of the local cong.wednesday evening fieldservicethursdays parts on the service meetingfridays "family evening" / evening fieldservicesaturdays quick build hall construction assistancesundays field service/meeting/late supperdaily sisters housekeeping/snooping through your possessionscar poolsallowance daylaundry day / missing clothing / badly sewed clothingboring libraryfarm duty !!!
stalls vs $#it vs gardeninginking the press!digging/carpentry/bricklaying/box packing/loadingnasty crotch grabbin roomiesnot gettin sum..except nasty looks from roomieslousy infermary (basic asprin cures all !!!
)longest pompous a$$ prayers going on and on and on....old anointed bro's ..that pee themselves and need help !assembly sound duty omg!food service overseeingparking attendant workapostate lookout/security work (it does exist guys !
awesome post idea at least for me, but for now i am too drunk and must bbq hamburgers so will post later -
boa
former bethelite dude
k, so i'm not really lookin for it so settle down please everyone!.
but really, am i the only one that would be tripping on watchtowers and awakes and when it came to sunday morning and you had to get your shite together tout de suite , there wasn't the right wt to be found anywhere?!?.
just me have this happen folks???.
jeece, i would prefer, and have done, the good ol' take any ol' wt rag, open it up (can't tell then that its not the right one unless they'res a real distinctive pic or something and a clever hand placement can fix that) and pretend pretend pretend.
dammit - i've been surfin WAY too much today on this site and others and am WAY TOO overloaded, plus, cousin al, and even 'if i had a rocket launcher' is on the radio - jeece!
please folks, tell me that more of you understand this watchtower study article crisis!.......
boa
.....whether it be in the congregation or from "headquarters"?
k, so maybe i'll play threadkiller, we'll see
the greatest scandle to me is that this organization could so totally control me (and millions of others out there) in full knowledge and complete dishonesty about the 'truth'. Knowingly for craps sake.
I really enjoyed and appreciate the COC and ISOCF books of R Franz but feel much stronger feelings than he writes, about the responsiblity that the individuals that make up the whole of the headquarters have for what they are doing in controlling peoples lives with the LIE! Perhaps Ray simply writes that way to not alienate some who aren't convinced yet of the truth about the 'truth'.
Of course, to outsiders with knowledge of how cults control, it is no surprise the above, but when you're born into it, surpressing all questions and obvious bs (obvious now) because you've been convinced/controlled that it is the 'truth', well jeece, it isn't such an easy pill to swallow.
boa
no longer controlled dubbie heh heh
i remember finding 2 week old lottery tickets in a elders car i was working on.
he said they must have been from the previous owner.
he owned the car for over a year and a half and the lottery tickets were just a little over two weeks old.
i haven't 'caught' an elder doing something untheocratic unless you call being self-righteous, pompous, and arrogant as such. Of course, many are not as I mentioned.
However, I have heard of my stories close to people I know and seemed quite factual. One was an elder I knew who was smoking for about 11 yrs (while an elder) and got caught at his workplace which was come distance from where he lived - LOL. And he was apparently a real hard ass with the young people in the congregation!
I think one of the most common activities they are 'guilty' of by wts standards is overdrinking - and quite damn understandably imo!!! Booze does wonders for surviving for a time in the WTS!
Jeece, once I broke free of the org, I no longer desired booze so strongly, and am now accepting any help and assistance from all of you to find another reason to start drinking heavily - LOL
boa
when i left the org i tried to find websites that revealed some of the things that i have learned recently on this website and others that are referenced here.
however, i found that it made it worse to read or talk about anything pertaining to jw's in the beginning.
it took a few years of healing (thank god for dogs, they are the master healers) and working through very strong feelings (which was difficult given that both my wife and i still have family in the org) but i finally came out the other end stronger and more confident.. fast forward to a few days ago when i found this board.
WELCOME exjdub!
Yes, a shocker indeed when you find out about the Faithless and Indescrete Slave Ruling Class Handful of Old Guys.
I'm facing UN NGO situation with a jw relative right now. I am sending the UN NGO info even though he probably doesn't really want to hear it as he already is qualifying what kind of 'support' it was that the WTS gave in the mags to the UN. I repeatedly said it to him that the articles themselves weren't the main problem but rather it was being an attached NGO to the UN. Also, he thinks if it was just for a library card, then its no problem - sigh. Anyway, I then said surely the research facilities available from other libraries in New York are sufficient and actually this produced a minor pause with a 'good point' from him.
Anyway, great to see you here - this site (my first one of this nature) is a real lifeline for me right now that's for sure.
boa
ps, here is the link to the thread little witch is doing refered to above everyone....
you better make sure you bury them really deep cause my dog will find it and bring it home.
i have a 10mth old bloodhound and you would not believe the dead stuff she has brought me.
in the past 3wks i have had skin's , skulls , leg bone's and i have no idea what yesterdays was.
FMZ, really, you know you can edit your posts within a day don't you?
Well, now that you know this, please go ahead and edit out the incriminating information.
Except I've copied it all and will hold it ransom and may even post it - LOL
boa
has the wt org.
published any figures on how many faithful "annointed" they think there've been since russell got things started back in the 1800s?
would be interested in subtracting that number from 144,000 to see how many faithful christians the jws say there were in the previous 1800 years or so.
of course, if what R Franz says about the society not really keeping track of the 'anointed' individually in the world is true, then it would be oh so convenient for the wts to never face the music of the 144000 not being a literal number
boa
if I could understand the mystery of the 'anointed' and their 'special' absolute knowledge they are going to a heavenly calling, now that would be something new....
k, so i'm not really lookin for it so settle down please everyone!.
but really, am i the only one that would be tripping on watchtowers and awakes and when it came to sunday morning and you had to get your shite together tout de suite , there wasn't the right wt to be found anywhere?!?.
just me have this happen folks???.
heh heh, I definitely was of the 'faker' class if I had forgotten my copy - i'd sooner use something else than ask for a correct one.
Of course, there is the old 'does anyone need a copy' at the beginning of the meeting, which no doubt is done to try and be helpful, but also tells everyone who the poor saps are who forgot.
boa
btw, is it wrong to put another mag inside the study article wt (after you've read the whole damn thing during the study anyway) and catch up on the new issues?
scooby - since when did you become so tolerant and agreeable?
Xena....thats noble. The WT should try that more often
Xena Some of us don't think of ourselves in a mind numbing cult tho..... Some of us are just trying to keep up, and hold on to something that means alot to us, whilst all the time having to take alot of flak. I don't mean me here either, I choose to be here, I mean Witnesses in general. Remember what it was like at school? or going door to door feeling petrified?
HS....... Again .....yet Again, I post and there you are. on about fly spray or something........ oh lordy. Doesn't Emperor class or Supreme One or whatever, cause you to look beyond a mere Jedi such as myself?.......Not that I don't appreciate your contributions of course...............
LOL - just teasin' you eh.
A: let's use our God-given brain and reasoning powers to discern a matter - just like Bible encourages.
W: after achieving the most basic knowledge of the Scriptures, let's focus more on the fine art of burying, our collective rank and file head, in sand.
boa
...still finding sand in scalp and ears....jeece