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Do you believe in God or Jesus ???

by run dont walk in

personally, i could care less about god and/or jesus, have no use for either of them, very disappointed in how they run things.

and when i die, i hope i get the chance to tell him/them that.. there was a great song in the late 80's early 90's by depeche mode called blasphemous rumours(spelling ?

) "i don't want to start any blasphemous rumours, but i think that god has a sick sense of humour, and when i die i expect to find him laughing.".

Bostero

2Pe 3:16 as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.
Again I want to say that just because the JW have given people a distorted view about God doesn't mean that they are right. They have twisted and distorted scripture and have given loads of nasty coverups everytime they screw or screwed up. The true God of the Bible and the world is not the same the JW teach. Remember, everytime a JW comes up with a doctinal law, he doesn't get it from the bible. There are governing body members who sit at a table and vote on issues to tell wether it is a sin or not. (read Crisis of onscience by Raymond Franz...former governing member and nephew of the late Fred Franz.) They use verses out of context to suit their choice on issues. So what I'm saying is don't blame good for a group spreading false rumors about Him. If someone spread false rumors about yourself, you would not want everyone to belive them based on what they are saying but you would want them to search out the truth to see if what they are claiming is eaither true or false. The same if some distorted the image of your mother and made her look different than what she really is like wether it be physical spiritual. you would want to prove that their rumors are wrong, and you would not want other people to believe what they say. They same is with God. Don't have a negative belief torwards Him just because sinful groups have told lies about Him and claim that it was coming directly from Him. Remember what John said: 1Jo 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

Bostero

54

Do you believe in God or Jesus ???

by run dont walk in

personally, i could care less about god and/or jesus, have no use for either of them, very disappointed in how they run things.

and when i die, i hope i get the chance to tell him/them that.. there was a great song in the late 80's early 90's by depeche mode called blasphemous rumours(spelling ?

) "i don't want to start any blasphemous rumours, but i think that god has a sick sense of humour, and when i die i expect to find him laughing.".

Bostero

2Pe 3:16 as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.
Again I want to say that just because the JW have given people a distorted view about God doesn't mean that they are right. They have twisted and distorted scripture and have given loads of nasty coverups everytime they screw or screwed up. The true God of the Bible and the world is not the same the JW teach. Remember, everytime a JW comes up with a doctinal law, he doesn't get it from the bible. There are governing body members who sit at a table and vote on issues to tell wether it is a sin or not. (read Crisis of onscience by Raymond Franz...former governing member and nephew of the late Fred Franz.) They use verses out of context to suit their choice on issues. So what I'm saying is don't blame good for a group spreading false rumors about Him. If someone spread false rumors about yourself, you would not want everyone to belive them based on what they are saying but you would want them to search out the truth to see if what they are claiming is eaither true or false. The same if some distorted the image of your mother and made her look different than what she really is like wether it be physical spiritual. you would want to prove that their rumors are wrong, and you would not want other people to believe what they say. They same is with God. Don't have a negative belief torwards Him just because sinful groups have told lies about Him and claim that it was coming directly from Him. Remember what John said: 1Jo 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

Bostero

54

Do you believe in God or Jesus ???

by run dont walk in

personally, i could care less about god and/or jesus, have no use for either of them, very disappointed in how they run things.

and when i die, i hope i get the chance to tell him/them that.. there was a great song in the late 80's early 90's by depeche mode called blasphemous rumours(spelling ?

) "i don't want to start any blasphemous rumours, but i think that god has a sick sense of humour, and when i die i expect to find him laughing.".

Bostero

Nat,

If you give me a good reason to prove your point ok. But making a remark like that and thats it doesn't say much about you and your intellect. If you would like to have an honestly seeking debate, than ok, but if you want to insult unwarranted, maybe you should go to aol chatrooms.

peace

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Do you believe in God or Jesus ???

by run dont walk in

personally, i could care less about god and/or jesus, have no use for either of them, very disappointed in how they run things.

and when i die, i hope i get the chance to tell him/them that.. there was a great song in the late 80's early 90's by depeche mode called blasphemous rumours(spelling ?

) "i don't want to start any blasphemous rumours, but i think that god has a sick sense of humour, and when i die i expect to find him laughing.".

Bostero

God's existence is not dependent on if anyone believes God exists or not. He exist wether or not anyone wants to except it. Unfortunately, because of cultic deceptions which the devil uses as a tool, people leaving cults may fall into general fallacies claiming all beliefs in a god is foolishness. This is not the case. Just because a women breaks a man's heart in a relationship, that man should not belive all women are bad, and the same goes with the reverse.

You need more faith to believe God does not exist than to believe that God does exist.

Peace

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help with pdf files

by Bostero in

does anyone know how to copy and paste a acrobat reader file or page and put it on this forum so that people can see it?

please give me details.

Bostero

does anyone know how to copy and paste a acrobat reader file or page and put it on this forum so that people can see it? Please give me details.

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Letter to Greg Stafford

by Bostero in

this is a letter i wrote to mr. stafford concerning a debate he had with dr. james white on the issue of "is jesus god or a god".

i would like as many opinios as possible.. .

hello mr. stafford,.

Bostero

By the way, how did we get all side tracted. The main point of the letter had to do with the reasoning on the trinity. Why is that point no mentioned or talked about using scripture.

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Letter to Greg Stafford

by Bostero in

this is a letter i wrote to mr. stafford concerning a debate he had with dr. james white on the issue of "is jesus god or a god".

i would like as many opinios as possible.. .

hello mr. stafford,.

Bostero

Sargon,

In this discussion we are presupposing that the Bible and everything in it is historically accurate and inerrant. If you want to discuss the Historicity and its inerrancy, we can start another topic. But just to leave you with a thought. I believe that the holocost(spelling in ?) is historically accurate, however I'm 30 and never lived through it. I know about it from what I've read and seen pics of, and it is true it happened. Now going further back, I believe that Christopher Columbus sailed the seas and landed in the Americas. I believe it happened. I didn't see it, but I read an article and books about historians who wrote about what took place. Back then, there were people who were not into playstation and tv and soccer, football, etc. They just sat there and wrote about what they saw as a hobby. Josephus, who was a jewish historian wrote about Jesus and what He did. He may not have believed that His powers were Godly but nontheless he wrote what happened.

daniel

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Letter to Greg Stafford

by Bostero in

this is a letter i wrote to mr. stafford concerning a debate he had with dr. james white on the issue of "is jesus god or a god".

i would like as many opinios as possible.. .

hello mr. stafford,.

Bostero

Phantom,

You did read wrong. Noone said (at least I didn't say) that we should not love ourselves. What I'm trying to stress is that love is expressed when one shows it to another. If it is just you in a place where there is nothing. Just a black area, and you don't see or hear anything and that is how you live for 1 yr. and you don't know anything or anybody, who would you love? You can't say yourself because you don't know what love is until after you love someone or something else first. I was stresseing that God is LOVE and that being LOVE is unchanging in His charachter. He has and always will be love. The point is that God The Father, could not have been without God the Son at any point in time or else the Father would have to love Himself and that is not what we are taught. I say, before one can love oneself he must first love another.

Daniel

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Letter to Greg Stafford

by Bostero in

this is a letter i wrote to mr. stafford concerning a debate he had with dr. james white on the issue of "is jesus god or a god".

i would like as many opinios as possible.. .

hello mr. stafford,.

Bostero

Faraon,
You are doing eisogesis here in Deut 32 8-9. Reading into the test that simply is not there. Moses here is reminding the Jews of when God seperated the nations and took to Himself a particular person to make His nation of Israel that through that nation the Messiah might come and through that nation all the world might be saved. There is nowhere in scripture that says Israel was given to the Father. It was always His and He separated a portion that He might use to bring His son through.
Now you mentioned ElElion. Do you mean Elohim From Gen 1:1? That is another name for God. which means strong one. Yahweh, or Jehova, means "I am the one who is", these are names that are given to him, or that He calls Himself. Now the bible says in too many places that that the world and the heavens and everything in them was created by God, Jehovah, ONE GOD The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit. So if He created it, it could not have been given to Him like he didn't own it.
Gen 12:1 Now the LORD said to Abram, "Go forth from your country, And from your relatives And from your father's house, To the land which I will show you;
Gen 12:2 And I will make you a great nation, And I will bless you, And make your name great; And so you shall be a blessing;
Gen 12:3 And I will bless those who bless you, And the one who curses you I will curse. And in you all the families of the earth will be blessed."

Daniel

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Letter to Greg Stafford

by Bostero in

this is a letter i wrote to mr. stafford concerning a debate he had with dr. james white on the issue of "is jesus god or a god".

i would like as many opinios as possible.. .

hello mr. stafford,.