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  Apostates are very disappointing. I just found the WTS is true about them.

  by reason in

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  your conduct, attitude, manner of speech, avatar, all of these shows what sort of hearts you people have.

  i can't feel the holy spirit operating in you people.

  the first time i exposed myself to apostates, i was imagining matured people, more matured than the jw's.

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  Corvin

  OK, break it up you two.

  I learned the hard way to take these things to pm. It is just a good policy.

  Corvin
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  Newbies, Those in Doubt . . . A rant just for you . . .

  by Corvin in

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  quote from the e-watchman's forum:

  this "organization", whether or not it is in good standing in jehovah's eyes, has given us some very valuable and treasured accurate biblical knowledge.

  to deny that would be unfair and perhaps throwing spiritual food back in our father's face ...

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  Corvin

  corvin im embarassed. i feel like a student lecturing a teacher!!! i didnt even look to see how many posts u have made! you're way ahead of me in the apostacy!

  bethel

  No, no, brother Bethel! You mustn't apologize. You made quite the appropriate response and it made so many licks of sense I am all wet with reasoning, lol. The number of posts I have made is not the thing. It's just that I have a lot of free time and a bone to pick.

  I was "dragged" up in the org and I have been df'd for 14 years and always thought I would return once I had myself aligned with the organization's viewpoints. A tremendous growth process took place over those years and just when I was on the brink of reinstatement, I found the truth about "the truth" while reading Dan Brown's, The Da Vinci Code. I know that sounds funny, but there was a recurring theme in that fiction book about the use and symbology of the pyramid/triangle in Christianity. I went on line to do some deeper research about the topic and the first site I found displayed that great stone pyramid right next to Russell's grave. I was astonished that CT Russell popped up in the most unlikely place. One thing I read lead to another and I found my way to a listing for Derick Barefoot's book about hidden images in the WT publications (I knew Derick Barefoot) and I was then lead here.

  The apostate process began about 8 months ago, so I am fairly new to this thing, but I am also so grateful to so many here for their insight, love and caring. I have come along way and woe to the JW who brings their hypocritical drama into my life again. I've already had the ocasion to take a couple of them off at the knee cap and it felt so good. I still have issues and anger about the org that I am working through, and my posts sometimes do reflect that.

  Peace to you,

  Corvin
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  How Long did it take you to re-build?

  by Scooby in

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  just wondering how long it took/ is taking many of you to rebuild your lives and say goodbye to phobias, etc.?.

  for those who grew up in the borg and don't have a point of reference to go back to....what have you done to create a new life free from that anguish to your mind?

  did a new religion help or therapy?

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  I have been disfellowshipped for 14 years. I started to rebuild 8 years ago. I am now adding a second story thanks to my wonderful wife and so many of you here at JWD.

  [Edited to say] While I waited so long to get it through my thick ignorant head that I needed to move on, I do not recommend waiting so long. One really does need to constantly reinforce the new way of thinking, the truth about "the truth", as it were, just as we spent so much time allowing them to reinforce the extravegant lies within our hearts and minds. It is truly a difficult thing to unlearn what you have spent your entire life learning, believing . . . acting it all out on a very off-Broadway stage.

  The key to leaving and recovering, in my estimation, is a very good support system. You need to draw close to and surround yourself with those who can help reinforce a new and empowering belief system that enables you to move on and grow. Education is just as essential. The more you know about the org, the more clear it will stick in your mind that you are doing the right thing in leaving. For me, pouring over everything I have ever learned in org and pointing that critical finger right back at them really seems to help. Spotting specific hypocrisies and deceptions in the organization inspires me move ahead knowing that I am only walking away from mere shadows . . . ghosts of ignorance and intolorance masquerading as love and truth.

  Corvin
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  Going Bald?

  by Puternut in

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  ok, i went to get my hair cut yesterday, and i told her i wanted to do something different.

  i've had it long, then colored it blonde, spiked it, and now it's short.

  she said how about bald?

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  I just buzzed all my hair off! LOL, everyone seems to like it so far.
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  Andy Kaufman Alive, Well and BACK!

  by Sirius Dogma in

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  http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040519/234/726q1.html

  andy kaufman returns after 20 years.

  wed may 19, 9:00 am et.

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  Some shots of (most likely) Bob Zmuda as Koffman's alter ego, Tony Clifton, at the Bunny Ranch . . . this was supposedly Andy.
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  Disfellowshipped.....

  by New Castles in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday i saw an old friend from a long time ago, like when we were kids.

  she responded a shy hello.

  when i asked how she was doing she responded that she was disfellowshipped.

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  New Castles, you did such the right thing in going after her. It just might be the thing to set her free.

  Recently I introduced my dear childhood sweetheart to this forum. We had not seen each other in 20 years! She recognized me in the Radio Shack about 5 weeks ago, and just like your friend, timidly told me she was disfellowshipped. I looked her right in the eye and told her I was too. But I went further than that. I told her that the WTS would say I were apostate.

  We ended up talking for 2 hours in the Radio Shack parking lot and I told her about the UN thing and lots of other stuff. She said that running into me is so strange because she had been thinking about me, and was talking to her mother, a fader, just that morning about some of her issues. She had even called an elder regarding one of them and was repelled by the elder's ignorant answer. By the end of our conversation that day, she said that she felt so much better; I think the words she used were "free" and "liberated", but she said that suddenly she was guilt-free and could now move on. She no longer feels as though she needs to go back. She has certainly been through enough bullshit with the Society. She needed someone she trusted to give her something substantive that would either confirm and validate her doubts or help adjust her thinking so she could return to the org.

  As a result, two people who loved and cared for each other 20 years ago, seemingly forever lost to one another, reconnected. I have my sister back and my wife now has a new best friend, and my kids now have a new and exciting "auntie" to get to know.

  I could cry when I think of what the WTBTS does to its members with their disfellowshipping practices.

  If you feel it is appropriate, keep after her and give her what you can in the way of comfort and accurate knowledge about the supposed "accurate knowledge" she has been burdened with.

  Good Luck!

  Corvin
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  My Gay Life

  by joelbear in

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  it seems millenia ago that homosexuals dared not declare that fact about them out loud for fear of being imprisoned, beaten to death or at least ostracized by society.

  true, some are still ostracized, some are still beaten but more and more they are simply becoming a part of the social fabric of families, communities and society as a whole.. was it just 1969 that a handful of drag queens decided enough was enough and refused to meekly be led off to jail for the night simply for socializing with each other in a bar in new york city.

  i was 11 years old when that happened and was just beginning to understand that i myself was a homosexual.

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  SwordofJah, thanks for sharing this week's Bible reading with us. What's your point?

  Corvin
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  Apostates are very disappointing. I just found the WTS is true about them.

  by reason in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  your conduct, attitude, manner of speech, avatar, all of these shows what sort of hearts you people have.

  i can't feel the holy spirit operating in you people.

  the first time i exposed myself to apostates, i was imagining matured people, more matured than the jw's.

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  Yet, interestingly, you people claim God is with you...

  Umm . . . no, Reason, I can't remember anyone on this board ever claiming that God is with us . . . it's the GB and JW's that make that claim. You have got it all bass-ackwards.
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  FDS Sends Convention Delegates Packin'

  by ezekiel3 in

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  2. friends

  jehovah's witness across north america are being sternly counseled at this week's service meeting that they should pack lunches during the 2004 dictrict convention instead of leaving the site to eat elsewere or return with food.

  in a letter read during the announcements, members are told this is a "serious problem".

  reportedly jws have been banned from some convention locations because the venues want concession stand business if jws insist on bringing carry-out meals into the facility.

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  Reportedly JWs have been banned from some convention locations because the venues want concession stand business

  When did they stop selling food at the conventions? Why did they stop selling food at the conventions? I imagine it was portrayed as a spirtiual thing; it was to lift the burden of food prep work off the bros and sis' shoulders so they could enjoy the fine spiritual banquet instead, bla bla bla . . .

  But what was the real reason for the WTBTS to stop selling food at the conventions? Did it have anything to do with the convention fascilities wanting to or insisting on their own vendors?
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  My old JW best friend is now Inactive

  by NaruNaruChan in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  ... and i'm surprised, because of how devout i "thought" she was, and how "in the truth" her family is.. turns out, she's bipolar (surprise, surprise, another mental disorder found in a jw) this is the one that was my best friend when i was in the "truth" and now she's totally wild...

  ??

  i dunno guys, it just get s weirder and weirder in california.

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  Corvin

  Yes, the symptoms of mental illness diminishes considerably when you accept the truth about the "the truth" and clearer thing and normalcy begins to manifest itself inside your head when you get away from the organization. I watched my first wife go from fairly normal to neurotic in just a matter of years when she came into the organization.

  Corvin