Landy - I don't appreciate your attitude. For one, I never said I believed in the Illuminati. I said the theory makes sense to me. Do you even have any idea what I am talking about? Google "Watchtower" and "Illuminati". The theories happen explain a lot about why the Watchtower operates the way it does. I just happen to find it interesting in light of the fact that my roommate is such a hardcore conspiracy theorist.
Personally, I don't know what to believe. I already explained that I am agnostic, and that goes far beyond my take on religion. Just as you cannot prove that God doesn't exist, you cannot prove the Illuminati doesn't exist, either. In fact, the Illuminati HAS been proven to exist. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati To what extent they exist as an organization hellbent on taking over the world, nobody knows. They could just be a harmless old boys' club, or they could be something more sinister.
I literally don't know what to believe, as I have heard sound arguments on both sides. To just blindly assume nobody is trying to control or decimate the human population is just as foolish and dangerous as it is being a hardcore conspiracy theorist. It is important to be open-minded and willing to research and discuss things, rather than assume one knows everything already. The fool speaks; the wise one listens.
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Ponderings of a Worldly Person
by Nevuela in35-year-old female in california here.
never a jw, but have had bible studies and attended several meetings and even a convention once.
i've always been agnostic with leanings toward the belief in some deity or other, although the more i learned from the jw's, the more i've learned to doubt, not just their teachings, but the fundamental teachings of all religions.
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Obedience At Its Blindest
by Nevuela injust a little something my "anointed" roommate posted on facebook a few months ago, along with replies from her fellow jws.
it was chilling to read, so i took a screenshot and saved it for future reference.
please feel free to share your own stories of blind obedience within the org.
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Obedience At Its Blindest
by Nevuela injust a little something my "anointed" roommate posted on facebook a few months ago, along with replies from her fellow jws.
it was chilling to read, so i took a screenshot and saved it for future reference.
please feel free to share your own stories of blind obedience within the org.
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I'm trying to repost it, it shows up, but as soon as I refresh the page, it's gone. Why is this happening? And why are we not allowed to edit our own comments more than a minute or so after posting? I've noticed that the edit option disappears soon afterwards.
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Obedience At Its Blindest
by Nevuela injust a little something my "anointed" roommate posted on facebook a few months ago, along with replies from her fellow jws.
it was chilling to read, so i took a screenshot and saved it for future reference.
please feel free to share your own stories of blind obedience within the org.
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The screenshot was here earlier. No idea where it went.
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Ponderings of a Worldly Person
by Nevuela in35-year-old female in california here.
never a jw, but have had bible studies and attended several meetings and even a convention once.
i've always been agnostic with leanings toward the belief in some deity or other, although the more i learned from the jw's, the more i've learned to doubt, not just their teachings, but the fundamental teachings of all religions.
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What's that supposed to mean?
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Obedience At Its Blindest
by Nevuela injust a little something my "anointed" roommate posted on facebook a few months ago, along with replies from her fellow jws.
it was chilling to read, so i took a screenshot and saved it for future reference.
please feel free to share your own stories of blind obedience within the org.
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Just a little something my "anointed" roommate posted on Facebook a few months ago, along with replies from her fellow JWs. It was chilling to read, so I took a screenshot and saved it for future reference.
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Ponderings of a Worldly Person
by Nevuela in35-year-old female in california here.
never a jw, but have had bible studies and attended several meetings and even a convention once.
i've always been agnostic with leanings toward the belief in some deity or other, although the more i learned from the jw's, the more i've learned to doubt, not just their teachings, but the fundamental teachings of all religions.
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35-year-old female in California here. Never a JW, but have had Bible studies and attended several meetings and even a convention once. I've always been agnostic with leanings toward the belief in some deity or other, although the more I learned from the JW's, the more I've learned to doubt, not just their teachings, but the fundamental teachings of all religions. Despite this, I find myself talking to "God" constantly (along with various deceased loved ones, but then who doesn't?).
I have a few friends who are in the org, including my sixty-something roommate who was recently "anointed." Interestingly enough, before she announced it earlier this year, I often thought about the 144,000 and firmly believed that if anyone alive today should be part of the remnant, it was my roommate, who is, aside from my late mother, the kindest, most compassionate and understanding person I have ever known. You would never guess her to be a JW.
Needless to say, when she announced her calling, I was stunned, but still not convinced. It's kind of difficult to take what she says seriously when she's one of those people who KNOWS the Illuminati are planning to decimate the population and take over what is left of the world, and are slowly killing us with everything from chem-trails and GMOs to vaccines and fluoride in the water. I personally don't know what to believe. I don't doubt that there are some groups out there deliberately trying to take over and/or destroy the planet, but I find it impossible to believe ALL of my roommate's conspiracy theories.Over the years, she has said things to me that have me confused and/or worried. I don't like talking to her about these things when she brings them up, because they are disturbing and make me uncomfortable, so I thought I would post them here. Keep in mind that I have not attended any meetings in a while and never plan to become a JW, so I'm not completely up-to-date on current beliefs, although I do know all about blood, shunning, abuse scandals, etc..
About a year or two ago, I recall my roommate saying she believed the Great Tribulation had already begun. And just this evening, while we were talking about the possibility of us being spied on via our own smartphones, she went on to warn me that "someday they'll be coming" for her. At first I thought it was because of all her research and chatting online about the Illuminati, but she clarified that "they" would be coming to round up all JWs and put them in concentration camps just like in WWII. I think she meant the UN, as she has claimed before that the UN is going to ban religion.
Has anyone heard anything in their local kingdom hall to support these claims? I don't actually believe any of it; I'm merely curious as to what the general consensus is among JWs. The theory that the Watchtower is actually controlled by the Illuminati makes a lot of sense to me, though, but of course, I don't dare mention the possibility to my roommate, who would probably be the first to drink the Koolaid if and when the time comes. -
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Elders fly to New York to challenge governing body
by usualusername1 injust saw this amazing video on youtube about brothers in ireland who were so upset with the ray grand fiasco they flew to new york to meet the governing body.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9-1dekqfmza.
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I'm pretty sure it was autocorrect that changed Franz to Grand.
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My Pseudo-Education Hasn't Hurt Me None, I Can Still Read the Writing on King Belshazzar's Wall~Part III
by TMS inbefore i go to extreme south texas, let me acknowledge an early influence that gave me self-worth, self-assurance, self-esteem and the feeling that i was as good as any damn person on this planet.. larry ranch, my congregation servant in renton, washington(home of boeing aircraft), was on my dad's judicial committee.
my dad had sexually molested my sister, sandy, repeatedly.
my dad got probation from the judicial committee.
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Still waiting for TMS's answer. It's been over a month now, and I know he's still around because I saw him comment on another thread just a few days ago.
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Paranormal Warning
by Cold Steel ini've heard some weird stories coming from jws about the paranormal.
i know about the warnings about items that come from unbelievers -- those don't interest me as much.
what i am interested in are actual experiences in stories of the paranormal you've heard or experienced yourself.
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Time Bandit - why do you say that? I don't see how Cold Steel's question is even remotely controversial. All he's asking is if anyone has experienced anything paranormal personally or if there are any urban legends circulating among JWs. It's not like he's asking if we BELIEVE in anything paranormal. Relaying what we have heard or experienced shouldn't cause any problems. And why atheists in particular? I know several personally who may not believe in a supreme deity, but DO believe in ghosts and other things that have yet to be explained or documented.