Posts by XQsThaiPoes

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What makes a cult a "cult"?

by XQsThaiPoes in

when does a high control group cross the line bettween being socially acceptable to being a "cult"?.

why do the marines or dod or cia earn special pleading to exempt them from being a "cult" when they seem to have most of the signs of being a cult.

is it simply the notion that theoretically they should be protecting our interest.

XQsThaiPoes

Pole

As far as those 100's of 1000s of shunned and abused catholics many were burried about 500 years ago give or take.

For the cia, I think it depends on what era of cia. During the hotest parts of the cold war the entire military was very religious so many things were done litteraly for God and country. I mean you have an atheist state and your job not only as a patriot but as a christian would be to stop it (not my veiw but you get the idea). The phrase "Kill a commie for Christ" did not manifest out of thin air. In todays CIA (like the director of the cia said) it is totally different.

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What makes a cult a "cult"?

by XQsThaiPoes in

when does a high control group cross the line bettween being socially acceptable to being a "cult"?.

why do the marines or dod or cia earn special pleading to exempt them from being a "cult" when they seem to have most of the signs of being a cult.

is it simply the notion that theoretically they should be protecting our interest.

XQsThaiPoes

You mention a interesting new angle that nobody has every really brought up. The concept that you can have trial of some sort, and the theory that these trials are not simple rubber stamps or railroad stations. Now the Nazis had tonnes of trials and on paper everything their cult did was legal. The USSR has done sumilar trials where basically you are already sentanced but it is more entertaining to humiliate you in a mock trial.

I think that the problem is the fact that many people can't well how do I say it. They simply can't play chess with their life very well. If you deliberately structure a high control group (this is a multi trillion dollar business) there is nothing you can do to it period except destroy it, leave in exile, or live with it. The next phase is are those actions legal. For example it is illegal to destroy the marines, it is illegal to go AWOL in the marines, it is legal to live with the marines. So you have to choose do you want to break the law or not.

It seems the right to kindnap (jail) you or kill you is the main divider.

The original congreessional army (that fought the british) was nothing like this and if you got fed up you could just take your gun and go home as it was all volunteer (plus you had to bring your own gun and clothes anyway).

Lets go to JWs it is illegal to destroy them except via civil means, you can leave jws any time you want, at least here it is legal to be a JW (but it is not so everyplace).

It seems like the JWs are far weaker and have less control thant the military (no duh), but they dont have a concept of being broght to justice (note the military has never been brought to justice only individuals from it have). The weird thing is to bring a military to justic you have to basically conquer them. Nobody seems to ever think of bringing the whole military to court to be disbanded, but I have heard people talk about bringing the whole of JWs to court be disbanded.

What is this safety people feel when a stranger in green or kaki with a m-16 and the letters U.S."something or nother" on his BDU. Vs a guy with a cheap suit from JC penny or Bullocks and a cobbled together translation of the bible and the uncanny habbit of standing in front of dougnut shops lack? Thats a serious question.

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What makes a cult a "cult"?

by XQsThaiPoes in

when does a high control group cross the line bettween being socially acceptable to being a "cult"?.

why do the marines or dod or cia earn special pleading to exempt them from being a "cult" when they seem to have most of the signs of being a cult.

is it simply the notion that theoretically they should be protecting our interest.

XQsThaiPoes

When does a high control group cross the line bettween being socially acceptable to being a "cult"?

Why do the Marines or DOD or CIA earn special pleading to exempt them from being a "cult" when they seem to have most of the signs of being a cult. Is it simply the notion that theoretically they should be protecting our interest. If a third party such as a militia decided to defend or propagate our interest does that free them from being a "cult" or a dangerous high control group.

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JGnat's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-28-04 WT Study

by jgnat in

wt quotes

?go about in the land?

"go about in the land through its length and through its breadth.?

XQsThaiPoes

My father took this article and read parts of it to me. Oddly he does not get what it is saying.

It implied in plain speak that if JWs were a better religion the new order would be here by now, but we suck so it is posponed until we learn our lesson for sucking.

The watchtower increases its loathing of Jehovah's witnesses every year the NWO does not manifest. Also they seem to be running from armageddon as fast as they can, and replacing it with the more proactive and less hostile "Paradise".

I believe that I am right about them slowly growing away from JWs. I mean I have not heard them so cynical about their own people. You would assume this article is a Joke someone made.

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Killing of JW Postal Worker

by prophecor in

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friends

reading the thread about the jw postal worker killed, made me think long and hard about the truthfulness of what cipic was stating, that the society allows for ones to work in the post office but frowns upon driving a truck for a major company like coca-cola, because the possibility that one may have a route that goes to a military base for instance.

or maybe to a strip club for that matter, i mean the possibilities are almost endless.

what kind of guidelines do they use in such cases?

XQsThaiPoes

Now I know it is not unanimous but I have heard of JW liquor store owners selling cigs and lotto tickets with no reprisal. I guess like all things it depends on the elders.

Another weird thing is JW nurses can give abrotions and blood transfusions but a JW DR can't prescribe them. The problem is I doubt in real life JW doctors ever come up against this because they are mostly well off, edjucated, and treatments are confidential by law. Plus docs have practices together so i am sure they just sub out what ever their conscience wont allow much like pro life docs do to abortion.

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Killing of JW Postal Worker

by prophecor in

jw
friends

reading the thread about the jw postal worker killed, made me think long and hard about the truthfulness of what cipic was stating, that the society allows for ones to work in the post office but frowns upon driving a truck for a major company like coca-cola, because the possibility that one may have a route that goes to a military base for instance.

or maybe to a strip club for that matter, i mean the possibilities are almost endless.

what kind of guidelines do they use in such cases?

XQsThaiPoes

Whoa left feild. I know a P.O. that worked for coke 37 years. I know several JWs in fed-ex and ups. If you get into long haul truck driveing ill have to get out an abacus.

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Is there new light on disfellowshipping?

by Chasity in

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friends

i had no idea there were so many ex jw's.

i have been out since 1998. officially booted in feb. 2001. i am not sure on what grounds though because i never went to my meeting.

all i heard is that accusations had been made.

XQsThaiPoes

How is 2002 old FREAKING LIGHT! Can't you guys slow down and read? I give up! I am not going to highlight all the quotes in the km for you guys I have done that too many times on this board.

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Is there new light on disfellowshipping?

by Chasity in

jw
friends

i had no idea there were so many ex jw's.

i have been out since 1998. officially booted in feb. 2001. i am not sure on what grounds though because i never went to my meeting.

all i heard is that accusations had been made.

XQsThaiPoes

I give up it is like talking to JWs here, I mean brick walls.

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Is there new light on disfellowshipping?

by Chasity in

jw
friends

i had no idea there were so many ex jw's.

i have been out since 1998. officially booted in feb. 2001. i am not sure on what grounds though because i never went to my meeting.

all i heard is that accusations had been made.

XQsThaiPoes

ezekiel the 1988 article is quoted in the 2002 km.

Basically it goes something like this. You can talk and be with your family, but thats a bad idea because then the person won't feel compelled to set matters straight with the elders. Anyway like I said the change was made in 88 and still stands, but trying to explain that to JWs, and X-JWs (oddly X-jws are harder to convince than JWs) is very difficult.

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Anti-Aging- THIS IS FANTASTIC!

by metatron in

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friends

if the link doesn't work, go to lef.org and click on the 'methusaleh prize" story.. if this experiment passes critical review, it will revolutionize scientific thinking about aging.

the last vestiges.

of pessimism will be blown away!

XQsThaiPoes

Dang thats an original screneplay if i ever saw one. From "Armaggedon to Armani" Based on a true story. Working title "The emporers new clothes".