day 14 of the adventure, sitting bull and more white man bull sh*t
well, day 14 of our adventure and the wonders have not ceased.
if you are just skimming, read the bolded print and the highlights.
Sometimes, even the Indians mebellish and leave out salient facts, that if understood, wuld help us see that they too were not always a nice bunch, but were capable of corruption at times.
Oddly enough, New York Life Insurance paid out a whopping $5,000.00 policy to Custer's widow. That was a large amount of money in those days. New York Life is among only a few companies that insure war vets, and today they issue policies to military personnel. 
let's say one of your relatives either died or invited you to a wedding at a hall, would you go?
Yes, I would and I have already done so. I would not mention my ex-JW status, but instead let them draw their own conclusions from my big beautiful beard and other nice features. 
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and i got to view them first hand...not from my bedroom child like i did as a child-longing to join and see them up close.... enjoy!.
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Cool pictures ... thanks .... 
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i was just thinking about when moses was leading people to the promised land.....and he hit the rock and said i give you water instead of giving the praise to jehovah, well, this is my opinion that if all moses did was say i give you water and didnt give praise to jehovah, then, what hope is there for a lot of the witnesses ......they do a lot worse than that............ what do you think
And, what hope is there for a god who would whack someone for a little faux pax like failing to praise him 
when making water come from a rock? Well, he didn't exactly whack Moses ... just kept him from the promised land. 
please dont take offence but ive just realised something maybe its been touched on before,.but when i was reading the thread on bil cosby i read the one off obviously secret.
now as i am a white person i assumed he was white until he stated he was black.
so when i thought about it, i imagine everyone on this site is white, does everyone who is black imagine everyone else is black, and anyone oriental imagine everyone else is oriental.
I am a person of color, as are all persons ... we all have some color ... some are just different shades ... and that is as far as I believe the answer should go.
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i thought we ought to even things up a little... go for it!.
no obscenities please.
Simon says,
We like real beer likebudweiser,coors, erm ... Boddingtons
Another British myth: the belief that Americans drink Bud and Coors ... well, we do drink them, sort of. We poor them over our heads to wash off the sweat. Truth is, Americans are in love with micro brews, pivate stock, and off brand rich lagers ... and of course, Californians love Yuppie Beers ( that is, some form of French sissy stuff with a fancy label that makes them feel special.) Still, I would love to try a Boddingtons.
yeah that's us again.
another blow out, again on the front, but his time i was driving.
but just three miles from the bad lands state park .
Great pictures Jst2laws. By the way, your title says "Dakoda" ... I am sure you meant to write "Dakota." - Jim W.
PS: If you want to see some really "bad" lands ... try the moon scape of Idaho ... not only does no one live there, but you can't build there.
did you take it easy, judicially speaking, on those with congregation responsiblities?
were you extremely slow to remove anyone because no one wanted the additional work caused by a servant's absence?
i know of some pretty crappy, ok, really crappy and unscriptural things done by ms's and elders that definitely called for removal, but the elders quickly swept it under the rug.
Hi NewLight,
Did you take it easy, judicially speaking, on those with congregation responsiblities?
No. If anything, there was a tendency to be more demanding of an Elder or MS who made a serious violation of Watchtower rules.
Were you extremely slow to remove anyone because no one wanted the additional work caused by a servant's absence?
No. If anything it was an opportunity to promote those we were already grooming.
I know of some pretty crappy, OK, really crappy and unscriptural things done by MS's and elders that definitely called for removal, but the elders quickly swept it under the rug. I wonder if this is driven by simple laziness. "Oh, we can't remove Brother Lush, who else is going to do the accounts report?"
No, lasziness was never a deterant in removing and Elder or MS. Rather, Elders more often took (take) delight in using their "Elder Powers" ...
Also, this is one of those issues that is truly "local." In larger urban congregations, where people move in and out a lot, there is less of an "old boys network" for Elders to contend. Whereas in small towns and rural areas, there is a strong tendency to be more lienient and forgiving of "family" and close buddies who break the rules. Yet, in rural areas, there is an equally strong tendency to boot those not part of the "in-crowd."
Jim W.
i recall when the economy took a plunge in 1969 as it headed for a big recession, my jw mentor noded his head with a smile as he reminded me that 1975 is "right around the corner.
circa 1970 president nixon had just taken the us dollar off of the gold standard and interest rates started moving up.
by 1973 gas prices followed suit as the oil embargos caused a delivery crisis.
I recall when the economy took a plunge in 1969 as it headed for a big recession, my JW mentor noded his head with a smile as he reminded me that 1975 is "right around the corner. Circa 1970 President Nixon had just taken the US Dollar off of the Gold Standard and interest rates started moving up. By 1973 gas prices followed suit as the oil embargos caused a delivery crisis. By 1979-1980 home mortgage rates were 16% when I bought my second home.
Armageddon was delayed as Jehovah's angels were given organizational instruction to hold the doors to the spiritual ark open just a little while longer ... to help people avail themselves of Jehovah's extreme mercy before he busted heads.
Today, June 30, 2004, nearly 30 years later ... The Fed Chariman, Alan Greenspan raised the Fed interest rate by 1/4 point, from 1% to 1.25% ... the rate banks charge each other for overnight loans. The Fed rate is most often the barometer that affects the Prime rate, that is the rate banks loan to their best commercial customers.
What about home mortgages? The Fed rate does NOT impact the home mortgage rate. However, in the event that it were, here is the impact for an average home loan:
$200,000 loan for 30 years at 6.5% means an Interest & Principle payment of $1,264.14.
$200,000 loan for 30 years at 6.75% means an Interst & Principle payment of $1,297.20.
So, the average new home buyer would have to scrape up an extra $33.06 per month. WOW! Armageddon IS right around the corner. When I bought my home in 1979 at 16%, that would translate into $2,689.51 per month payment. Now that would be Armageddon!!!
Currently, home loan interest rates are at historical lows. The 30 year average is 8.5% ... so, a 1/4 point increase is really nothing more than a slight adjustment. Also, the home interest rate is indexed to bonds and T-bills, which are free market driven, and not driven by the Fed rate to banks. Over many months there can be a secondary fallout that might affect home mortgage rates ... but, there is no real direct correlation.
So relax about the Fed rate, pay your house payment with a smile, buy that new home if you can, have a beer ... and keep on waiting for ARMAGEDDON!!!
i was looking at valis' thread and i agree that being insulting, provoking or rabid is out of order in any type of discussion.
when people in general, anywhere, talk about religion or politics, it usually sets up sides.
one of the things that jehovah's witnesses were not allowed to do ever, was to get involved in any type of political discussion.
Hi Min,
I enjoy discussing politics. But, to me it is at least 50% fun, humor, and overall excitement ... much the same as when we watch football ... it is my form of sport. Too many, however, have no sense of humor, lack understanding in parody, and simply take everything oh so seriously ... so, I finally gave up discussing it in public.
