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  What causes most JW's to lose the ability to reason?

  by XBEHERE in

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  take a look at this wt excerpt from another thread that i copied and pasted:.

  *** g93 3/22 why so many false alarms?

  jehovah?s witnesses, in their eagerness for jesus?

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  lilybird

  hmmmm.. well its like how my mother-in-law always said ..everytime the organization would change their mind about something..... she said it was new truths revealed... now we can do this.. now we can that.. like she had just won some big contest or something...total brainwashing that Jehovah feeds "new truths" as he sees it will "strength his organization"...blaaaaaaaaaaaaa..blaaaaaa.blaaaaaa
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  Defending and Legally Establishing the Truth - Barb Anderson

  by Dogpatch in

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  from barbara anderson:.

  http://www.freeminds.org/women/defendingtruth.htm.

  it appeared in the december 8, 1991 awake!

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  lilybird

  Thanks Dogpatch for posting the url for Barbra Anderson!! It was informative and its good to know that someone from inside the org who knows how they operate, will expose them for the big phonies that they are, They are no better than the other religions that they call "evil". At least the other religions involved in child abuse are acknowledging they have some serious issues. The JWS org try to brush everything under the rug and claim persecustion
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  Memories of my judicial committee meeting....

  by kitties_and_horses_oh_my! in

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  you know, i was reading one of the posts about how dubs rat each other out - and good god, i was excellent at that, i even frickin ratted myself out, sad really!

  it brought to mind my judicial committee meeting: .

  i'd been employed in a job that required skip-tracing.

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  lilybird

  Hi kitties, I sympathize with you and give you kuddos for facing the firing squad. I went thru a similar experience. It is not heartwarming or inspiring or spiritually enlighting in any way. Its a shame that these men are put in the postion of spiritual leaders and shepards and they have had no real training or guidance on how to empathize and help others deal with difficult situations. That is one of many reasons why I left. Happiest day of my life when I broke free...
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  JW Disaster Relief - One of their biggest moneymakers?

  by ithinkisee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  .and i just thought they were so on top of disaster relief around the world because they cared.

  but when i heard this a lightbulb went off in my head:.

  we just had our co visit, and our co is the guy that was the head of hurricane relief in punta gorda, florida.

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  lilybird

  IT makes me shudder to think I used to call myself a Jehovah's Witness....
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  What would have to change for you to come back?

  by _Atlas in

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  to those who have conscientiously walked away:.

  what changes will at least make you consider coming back in?.

  of course some will say nothing they do will lure them back?

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  lilybird

  There is no point in turning to any organized religion. They all control you in some way by their different doctrines. I choose to believe in God or not and believe it is every other person's perrogative to believe or not. Its not my business or concern what they believe. I enjoy having the freedom to choose my way in life and also my children are free to live or believe as they choose. That is what drives the human spirit. The organization stiffles all the joy and desire in life- all things that were created for our enjoyment in life by others who not JWS.
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  Superbowl ... "super"

  by Simon in

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  this is impressive.

  i've now been watching tv for 1 and a half hours and have yet to see *anything* happen.

  will they play any sport at all or just 'tit about' all evening?

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  lilybird

  The half time show was spectacular. I love watching Paul McCartney perform . His performance surrounded by fireworks was true decandence, but it was so great. I wanted the Eagles to win, just because they were the underdog in the game.
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  Two types of elder?????

  by chuckyy in

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  2. experiences

  its my experience after actually being an elder for a number of years that there are in fact...two types of elder.. type 1....genuine, actually cares about the people in the congregation and wasn't actually bothered too much if he became an elder or not.. type 2....very legalistic, cares more about organizational laws rather than people and lacks compassion and empathy.

  this type is more of a spiritual policeman.

  he wanted desperately to be an elder and now that he is, he loves the sense of power and prestige.. this has been my experience and if there are more type 2 elders on a body, the results can be disastrous.. what has been your experience???

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  lilybird

  well we had one elder who ran his own business, drove a cadillac. He missed a lot of meetings and he was supposed to oversee the Tues night bookstudy meeting but he always stayed late at work, He covered himself by having a young ministerial servant take the study. His kids were involved in "worldly" baseball leagues and hocky leagues, No one said anything, because he had lots of money and contributed a lot. He also employed witnesses and they always defended him because he looked after them financially. Finally, he got too carried away with making money and lost his money and his business in the early 80's. Not sure if he lost his elder privileges though, I was not in his congregation at that time.
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  Anyone like me where you still believe in MOST of their doctrines?

  by inquirer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  like i don't like that un involvment, record keeping.

  i don't know what to think about the paedophile stuff, because you could accuse the catholic church of that too.

  but apart from those things i still believe that god's name is jehovah, his son is jesus, no trinity, and he died on a torture stake... i love reading the new world translation, i believe it's the best one, but i love reading other translations too!

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  lilybird

  I think the apostle John was eatin' magic mushrooms when he wrote Revelation :)
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  The 'Thinking'

  by GetBusyLiving in

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  before i had disassociated myself i went through a period of missing meetings (go figure) and i was lurking around sites like this for quite a while, reading ex-witness books, and doing a lot of reseach into the bible itself.

  i got an email from my best friend that was in my hall who was wondering what was up and if i was 'discouraged'.

  i told him that i had been reading up on the wtbts and that i had been feeling like shit because i wasn't sure what i was doing with my life, still hanging onto some dream my parents had that was demonstrably messed up.

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  lilybird

  Yes I agree that we don't need organized religion to find or love God. So many terrible acts have been committed against other ppl in the name of religion. I believe that God , if there really is a god and Im not convinced of that totally, only wants us to acknowledge him , live a good life and treat others like we would like to be treated. That means not having our minds controlled by others, We were meant to be free-thinking individuals. I have no desire to live in a paradise earth living as JW clones. Life is only interesting because everyone thinks differently and we must strive in our life to exist, Just my thoughts anyways..
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  Blood Brothers

  by lilybird in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i watched an interesting and inspiring story last night on a canadian show called fifth estate.

  it actually takes place in britain and the story is about a british couple faced with the posiblity of their young son dying of a rare blood disorder.

  they are not jw's and obviously i don't think a witness family would be able to take on this treatment for their child.

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  lilybird

  Hello rebel8, life is so difficult already without all the health problems like you have to endure. Im sorry your mother involved you in a life where you had no control. As you say, the only bright spot was not contracting HIV. Hopefully your life is back on track, and a healthy one for you. At least now, you have options to make your life a healthy one.