AuldSoul,
What I was trying to say is that living things change (evolve) over time. Usually because of ID (i.e. breeders) or geographic isolation. That has absolutely nothing to do with where life came from. I have yet to see where science has bridged the missing links. Life forms "appear suddenly in the fossil record, fully formed". This doesn't "prove" that there is a creator, but it also doesn't prove that there isn't one. Both sides of this argument eventually come down to faith. Either faith in speculative science or faith in an unseen God. Debating with an evolutionist is exactly like debating a religionist.
I would love to have someone offer me conclusive evidence one way or the other. Right now I'm sitting in mental limbo. But my days of putting blind faith in something or someone are over. Never again if I can at all help it.
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Sunning Tomatoes - Belief or Science?
by jgnat ini've seen a lot of fierce belief and science bantered around on the evolution thread this week.
as i was slicing up my final ripened tomato from my garden, i got to thinking.
i learned from mom's example to put the green tomatoes on the window ledge to ripen.
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Sunning Tomatoes - Belief or Science?
by jgnat ini've seen a lot of fierce belief and science bantered around on the evolution thread this week.
as i was slicing up my final ripened tomato from my garden, i got to thinking.
i learned from mom's example to put the green tomatoes on the window ledge to ripen.
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I agree wholeheartedly, jgnat. I put more stock in proveable science than unproveable surmisings. Evolution is a fact .... to a point. Just look at the different dog breeds. They all evolved from a common ancestor. But when science tries to move beyond the origin of breeds to the origin of life, they start sounding just like the religionists. And as far as I can see, there's no experiment they can conduct to "prove" their contentions. I would love to be shown the solid evidence, so far all I've gotten is dogmatic statements contending there "is proof" without any effort of producing said proof. Or, if they do produce it, it's proving something different than the point in question.
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Please give Stacey a BIG welcome!
by Jourles instacey is the one who i just recently made contact with again after over 15 years.
we spoke today for a little while and it seems that she had not heard of many of the wts doctrinal changes.
(generation, un, etc.
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WELCOME !!!! Glad to have you here.
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new member here
by pippy inhi, i just joined this site and thought i would say hi.
my brief history is being raised as a witness, disfellowshiped for being a normal 17 year old, spending 10 years feeling guilty and thinking im going to die and so will my husband and son.
mother and father in it and always run out crying because they think they failed as parents cause none of their kids stayed in it.
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Hi Pippy. Welcome!!!
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Bizarre November 2006 KM
by yakata inthe insert is called "how do i view blood fractions and medical procedures involving my own blood?
" i will attempt to transcribe the more salient points for everyone here.. paragraph 1 (verbatim): the bible commands christians to "abstain ... from blood.
" (acts 15:20) thus, jehovah's witnesses do not accept transfusions of whole blood or the four primary components of blood-namely, red blood cells, white blood cells, platelets, and plasma.
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Welcome to the board, Yakata.
I am sooooo glad to be free from all their childish and absurd reasonings.
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The bastards have marked me!
by Zico inso, i'd been invited to a jw 'friends' house this evening, but before i went, i went out with some work mates, something i've been doing a bit more of recently.
i told him i'd be home about 7.30 and for him to phone me after that time when he wants me to come round, so i get back about that time, popped onto jwd, whilst awaiting my phone call, got nothing, so i phoned him up a few minutes ago, and he told me that he'd discussed it with the others, and since i've been going out with worldly people so much, they want me to stop that association before they let me start associating with them again!
i'm really fucking angry here now!
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Yep. Very few will take the human stance. Most will go along with the WTS "standards". Sorry that you have to go through it.
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Confirmed TED JARACZ has heart problems.
by yesidid ini received info from brooklyn and can confirm that ted jaracz has seen a heart surgeon.
the source gave the impression.
that he is not in immediate danger, and there was no comment on his location..
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I have to admit that "Rutherford" came to mind immediately when I read that T.J. was sent to California.
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Agent Smith's story
by AgentSmith ini was born into a jw family.
my father's parents were jw.
my mother?s family was a big mix.
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Welcome to the board, Agent Smith.
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Hello! I'm new here
by exwitless ini'm new to posting to this forum.
my husband and i have been reading it for a few months.
we have finally written, sealed, and stamped our da letter, and it's ready to go directly to the post office.
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Hello Exwitless and husband! Welcome to the board.
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How many years since you left the wts?
by fullofdoubtnow in.
we had a thread yesterday about how many years we spent in the wts, so let's total up how many years it is since we lef or, if you are fading, since you last attended a meeting.. it's just over a year since i last went, and almost 7 since my bf last went, so our total is 8 years.. feel free to add your years out.
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We've been out for 15 years now. So, 30 more years to add to the total.
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