"I sure hope that science can make good use of the brains we're sending them."
Cellist
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Caption Time Again - Hobbies are a Waste of Time
by jgnat inbreaking in my new scanner here.
this is another image that captured my eye, an august 2004 wt.
the caption reads: "some have eliminated certain hobbies and nonessential personal projects" can you come up with a better one?
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A Dummies Discussion on God, the Universe and Everything.
by nicolaou inthought i'd try a different approach to the big questions but it'll probably descend into the usual disagreements.
still, no harm in trying .
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A Dummies Discussion on God, the Universe and Everything.
by nicolaou inthought i'd try a different approach to the big questions but it'll probably descend into the usual disagreements.
still, no harm in trying .
.. the rules:.
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Little Toe, I think you have a valid point there. In fact it's always been my biggest beef with the "hard-core" evolutionists, they're too much like fundamentalists. There are even the same "buzz" words as the WTS uses. From "Understanding Physical Anthropology and Archaeology", pg.147 'Primates, which like other mammals, MOST LIKELY originated as a shrewlike animal in the Paleocene (or possibly the late Cretaceous)'. And again on pg.225, 'Some, resembling modern lorises and lemurs, MAY HAVE given rise to direct ancestors of these modern tarsiers, and still others MAY HAVE been the ancestral stock for all anthropoids.' And on pg. 226, 'NO DOUBT, diverse species of anthropoids were adapting to varied ecological niches...'(I've capitalized the key words to my point because I don't have the ability to highlight or bold the letters). And this is what I meant by "glossing over".
Kid-A, sorry I can't find that quote about the life form appearing suddenly, fully formed. I'm afraid it's in a book I borrowed. I only remember it because it sounded so much like the WTS. lol It didn't really prove my point anyway, it was referring to a transitional form of ancient man. I did find this though, same book, pg.318 'Apparently, A.boisei does not appear anywhere in East Africa until about 2 m.y.a., and until about 1 m.y.a. lived basically unchanged. ..... Where did boisei come from?'
I'll admit right now that I was trying to get the evolutionist camp going. From here on I promise to be good.
Sorry Nic if I got this thread off track. I only commented the first time because your thread seemed in danger of being buried, and just got a little carried away. I must've been bored. Interesting discussion, everyone.
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A Dummies Discussion on God, the Universe and Everything.
by nicolaou inthought i'd try a different approach to the big questions but it'll probably descend into the usual disagreements.
still, no harm in trying .
.. the rules:.
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Cellist
Kid-A, I'm well aware that the basic building blocks of life are simple. Perhaps I used the wrong word. I was speaking about the multi-layering business. As well, in keeping with the tone of this thread, I was giving my personal impressions on the subject. I don't think this is meant to be a biological discourse. If I can find my biology books (yes, 20 years old) and if this thread is still alive, I will put in some references to my thoughts. You've misread a few of my thoughts, but I'll deal with that when I can find my books.
What I would like to know, is why do evolutionists always resort to ridicule, name calling and the like when their beliefs are challenged? A simple rebutal would've sufficed. And, by the way, I never said that I believed in God.
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A Dummies Discussion on God, the Universe and Everything.
by nicolaou inthought i'd try a different approach to the big questions but it'll probably descend into the usual disagreements.
still, no harm in trying .
.. the rules:.
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Cellist
Well now, if you're talking about probabilities .... I would say that the complexity we see in life coming from chance mutations is the most improbable explanation. When you consider that the mutation has to occur in the reproductive genes and that the vast majority of mutations will be harmful rather than beneficial, I just can't see it happening. Not even with a great amount of time. How can a partial feather help a reptile? How would it give a lizard a reproductive advantage? With the god angle, all you have to come up with is, "Where did God come from?" With evolution, not only do you have to come up with the answer to "Where did the first living cell come from?" But you also have to answer that same question every step of the way with each new life form. According to all the archaelogical and biology books I've ever read, the various life forms "appear suddenly and fully formed in the fossil record". Of course, they gloss that bit over with lots of speculation.
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A Dummies Discussion on God, the Universe and Everything.
by nicolaou inthought i'd try a different approach to the big questions but it'll probably descend into the usual disagreements.
still, no harm in trying .
.. the rules:.
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There are HUGE gaps in that evolutionary model you speak of. I have yet to see solid evidence that PROVES that all life came from a single cell. I agree that things evolve, but have seen no proof that they evolve from one species to another. And, there is even less evidence to PROVE that they evolve from one phylum to another. (i.e. reptile to bird). And, I don't care how esteemed the authority is, speaking dogmatically and assertively is NOT evidence. If you know of a book or publication that contains positive proof of what you claim, please point me in the right direction. I've been looking for it all my life. And, by the way, I was not raised religiously. Evolution and creation had an equal opportunity in my brain.
And, I still say, "Your guess is as good as mine."
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A Dummies Discussion on God, the Universe and Everything.
by nicolaou inthought i'd try a different approach to the big questions but it'll probably descend into the usual disagreements.
still, no harm in trying .
.. the rules:.
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Strange picture In J W publication
by BluesBrother in.this "new world scene " is from p 190 of the "bible teach " book dated 2005.. it is just a joke.
they have transformed their key belief into a cartoon type kiddies scene.
is there no thought of child safety?
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New, lost & opinionated
by Shanna Korin infirst let me say i'm new to this forum, second wow!
as it is i have spent at least an hour and a 1/2 just reading different topics and wow!
i never in my life imagined for one minute that it would be so hard to leave the organization.
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