Posts by 4JWY

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I Come Bearing Gifts! Part 2 of 3

by Shepherd Book in

after finding out the truth about noahs flood (and many other things), there seemed little point in actively pursuing the witness lifestyle.

one thing we were finally able to do was openly celebrate our sons birthday.

we had celebrated his first birthday, but we did so secretly.

4JWY

Having been a jw for 42 years and firmly walking away from the org five years ago, I find this sounds like something out of a science fiction movie now.

Step up to the plate, confident and unafraid, and stop apologizing for possibly "offending" someone. Move on and beyond and just tell the guy to go F*%#! a rolling doughnut. You only live once. Make it YOUR life. Live by your rules, not theirs.

"Happy Birthday" to your precious son and may you celebrate many more, without any guilt or fear, regardless of what mere jw men may think.

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need some help with letter.... this is what i got so far....help

by thebiggestlie in

jw
friends

dear mom and dad,

so you want to here from me and to know how i really feel on certain issues which is understandable.

i mentioned before that i always felt like the black sheep, like something was wrong with me.

4JWY

Nicholas,

Something I thought might help you feel confident too in making your choices. I showed my dad and two elders this from the 8-8-88 Awake - the cover topic: Is Your Religion A Matter of Choice or Chance?

The article asks, "Should religion be a mere hand-me-down? Or should it result from a deliberate, rational decision?"

Next article: Early Christianity Not a Matter of Chance - "Each convert to Christianity had to make a rational choice after listening and meditating on what he had heard."

Next article:Do You Choose - Or Let Others Choose for You?

"But is what we inherit always the best?....throughout the earth there are some who are taking a second look at the religion they have inherited from their forefathers. Instead of considering it a betrayal of a family tradition that must be cherished unquestioningly, their spiritual longing has moved them to search for something better....but whether you are happy with your present religion or not, it still behooves you to make a choice...Why, even in everyday matters, we try to control our own lives as much as possible. Who wants to be just a victim of circumstances?...And yet, for many of us of, one of life's most crucial decisions-which religion we should profess-has been decided for us by chance, by long-forgotton quirks of history, and by place of birth.

Would it not be wise to ask yourself: 'To what do I owe my religion? Was it a hand-me-down that I have never questioned? Or did I make a deliberate rational choice?' Asking such questions is the very thing that the Bible urges us to do. The Apostle Paul admonished the Corinthians to 'keep testing whether they were in the faith, to keep proving what they themselves were.' 2Cor 13:5

True it takes courage to swim against the current. To be different is never easy. But if you defer making a choice, inevitably others will choose for you. An open mind is essential in making the best possible choice. Whatever your religion may be, do not leave it to chance."

These were just excerpts from those articles. I'm sorry I'm not able to get it posted in full.

Happy TRUE FREEDOM OF CHOICE to you.

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need some help with letter.... this is what i got so far....help

by thebiggestlie in

jw
friends

dear mom and dad,

so you want to here from me and to know how i really feel on certain issues which is understandable.

i mentioned before that i always felt like the black sheep, like something was wrong with me.

4JWY

Wow, well written letter full of honest thoughts that should make an impact with any parent.

Don't worry about a misspelled word or two, it's not a test. It's a wonderful example of a young man not afraid to share his emotions.

A word of encouragement:

My husband, and I are happily out of the cult, in large part due to listening and appreciating our adolescent son's similar thoughts shared.

Stick to your convictions and who knows who may see your sense and exit too.

4JWY

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If Jehovah went to a psychiatrist, what would be his diagnoses?

by flipper in

jw
friends

we're talking about a "supreme being" who hates a lot, is violent and vindictive, fascist, any "love" is totally conditional, plays mean mind games (sacrifice your son for me)....he probably oughta be locked up!

mrs flipper

4JWY

Courtesy of the Onion:

"God Diagnosed with BiPolar"

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28484

...edited to add:

not to make light of the bipolar condition. My heart goes out to those who struggle with the highs and lows. Most of my family members are afflicted with it also, but find, a sense of humor can help lighten the moods at times.

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I hate Walmart!

by Elsewhere in

jw
friends

i rarely ever set foot in the place and will go out of my way to avoid shopping there.

tonight i made the mistake of giving walmart the benefit of the doubt and walked in the door.. they didn't have the main item i was looking for, but they did have one other small item.

i headed to the front to check out only to find they had only a few check-outs open and all of the lines were far too long.

4JWY

Just heard of yet another reason - WTS style - teens in Mexico working at Wal Mart are classed as "volunteers" and are unpaid workers!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20056614/site/newsweek/

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How Would You or Did You Leave The Organization??

by minimus in

jw
friends

by choice, with a little help from the elders, faded slowly, disassociated????

how'd you get out?

4JWY

Hubby and I pulled into the parking lot on a Sunday morning -

I couldn't get out of the car with the thought of walking through those KH doors one more time,

He agreed,

We pulled out, and.... life is good

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30 Minute Public Talk-CONFIRMED

by stillajwexelder in

i can confirm (as there seems to be some doubt) at the service meeting last night during the item about the new watchtower, a letter was read by the po.

the public talk is to be 30 minutes long.

this is to allow for more association and ministry.. lengthy negative introductions about the state of the system of things/deep last days etc are to be heavily curtailed.

4JWY

Lengthy negative introductions about the state of the system of things/deep last days etc are to be heavily curtailed

Sounds like someone has finally gotton a clue. My comment to elders several years ago was that,

"if I hear one more talk of death, destruction, and judgement, I'll go running and screaming out of the kingdom hall!"

Oh, how my father delighted in proclaiming their messages of negativity until he finally killed himself with the bound volumes surrounding him. I wonder how he'd take this news.

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WTF? moments

by 5go in

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yep it's a fox, grey foxes are known for climbing trees.

though one has to wonder how it didn't get shocked..

4JWY

Looks like he may be seeking to devour someone.

Great shot!

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Pirate copies of Knocking Director

by jwfacts in

i just received an email from knocking director with the following message.. important copyright note .

please note that the knocking dvd is copyright protected and it is unlawful to make copies of the dvd, even if you are making copies for friends/family and have no intention of selling the copies.

there are reports that a number of people have been making copies of the dvd, under the assumption that it is ok for "educational purposes" or to give as gifts to friends and family.

4JWY

Directors e-mail reads:

A film like KNOCKING has no chance to be shown on a commercial network like ABC, CBS, or NBC.

GOOD THING!

If not for PBS, there would be no place for a film like KNOCKING.

There's only one place for it - out, with the other 'trashy commercial media' he thinks he rises above .

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Who Wore Jeans, Shorts and Tee Shirts after the Convention???

by Lady Liberty in

jw
friends

is there anyone out there that went to the district convention that can tell us if the majority obeyed the "no tee shirts, jeans or shorts" policy for after the convention attire??

just curious how the rank and file responded to their "new light".. sincerely,.

lady liberty.

4JWY

My husband and I had been to an all-day outdoor dusty, dirty, event on Sunday - directly after that, we had tickets to a big concert in our city to attend.

Going from one event to the next, we ended up pulling into a tiny, obscure parking lot. Here in our truck we changed clothes and sat there munching on food out of our cooler and having a couple beers - when across the parking lot I see these two young guys walking towards us, in their finest suits. I knew instantly who they would be, as I realized the DC was this weekend, not far away.

My husband was in quite a state of undress at this moment and with the truck doors open - it would've looked like we were doing something "WTS illegal" - anyway....

I couldn't resist and said, "You guys need to get into some shorts and a tee shirt!"

One's response was a drawn out, "E G G S A C T L Y!!"

I said, "You must be witnesses" (No lapel badges were proudly being worn.)

"YA " (not spoken with enthusiasm)

To which I replied: "Ohhhh, I guess you're not allowed to. How cultish is that?"

By this time they were stepping into their truck, so I heard no response.

They then realized they were trapped in this tiny parking lot, as the exit, an alley, they felt was too tight for their truck to fit through.

No escape from apostates, they shuddered.