A married man may be fond of bowling. But if his family cannot enjoy bowling with him, it would be wise and loving if he curtailed this activity.What a bunch of BS! I gladly accept that my husband has his own individual interests/hobbies and goes off and rides his bicycle for hours at a time if he wants to! Being happily married for 25 years, I feel that is" wise and loving" to allow him the freedom to do what is so meaningful to him, and what keeps him healthy mentally and physically. I wouldn't dream of expecting that I should try to keep up with him on my bicycle or insist that he give up riding to stay home with me.
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9Comments You Will Not Hear at the 10-03-04A WT Study (Abbreviated)
by blondie incomments you will not hear at the sunday 10-03-04a wt study (august 15, 2004 issue) abbreviated
review comments
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Two JW PO's... and two classic jobs....
by Elsewhere inhttp://www.amnews.com/public_html/?module=displaystory&story_id=9272&format=html.
jehovah's witnesses have 'dos' congregations in danville.
by herb brock .
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\Pa"tri*ot\, n. [F. patriote; cf. Sp. patriota, It. patriotto; all fr. Gr. ? a fellow-countryman, fr. ? established by forefathers, fr. ? father. See Father.] One who loves his country, and zealously supports its authority and interests. --Bp. Hall.
pa·tri·ot ( P ) Pronunciation Key (p
n.- One who loves, supports, and defends one's country.
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What a flagrant lie on the part of the PO! I wonder why Mudge decided to fudge??
fudge ( P ) Pronunciation Key (f
n.- A soft rich candy made of sugar, milk, butter, and flavoring.
- Nonsense; humbug.
v. fudged, fudg·ing, fudg·es
v. tr. - To fake or falsify: fudge casualty figures.
- To evade (an issue, for example); dodge.
v. intr. - To act in an indecisive manner: always fudged on the important questions.
- To go beyond the proper limits of something: fudged on the building code requirements.
- To act dishonestly; cheat.
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No Trespassing!! Breaking news for local JW's.
by Mulan inthis week at the book study, at all congregations in the u.s., a letter was read saying if you go to a house or property with a "no trespassing" sign, you must not enter, or knock on the door.
you have to leave immediately.
a sign saying "no solicitors" is too ambiguous, and they are to use their own judgment, and don't have to knock.
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Just yesterday I was weeding through some of my late dad's things and finally threw away something - now I'm digging it out of the trash to review after seeing this thread topic.
It was a typed copy of our city's municipal codes pertaining to soliciting that he had carried in his wallet for years in a little plastic protector. It was always handy to pull out and shove in someone's face when they called the cops for his being at their door. It would be the highlight of the day for him to put it to use. Persecution, right on!
It showed the city's code for "Uninvited solicitation - Prohibited" and then had 3 big arrows he had drawn pointing downward to the next section which said, "EXCEPTION" - and it was this exception he delighted in reading to them:
" The preceding section shall not be applicable to religious solicitors whose primary purpose is the giving, selling or distribution of religious literature when done as a part of the method of spreading the distributor's religious beliefs."
Dang, this city really messed up on that one.
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JW Care Homes For The Elderly.
by Englishman inhttp://www.jah-jireh.org/index.html
this is a registered charity run by a fella by the name of delaney.. you can become an associate and help them to raise money.
these are the latest figures i could obtain from the uk charity commission.. they seem to be doing ok!financial year startfinancial year endgross incometotal expenditure01 jan 199731 dec 1997114001 jan 199831 dec 199840026901 jan 199931 dec 19993502,10601 jan 200031 dec 2000812,199742,19601 jan 200131 dec 20011,894,4551,703,64401 jan 200231 dec 20022,214,7671,782,906. .
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Englishman,
Thank you for this information and site. I'd wondered if any such facilities existed anywhere and had never heard of any in the U.S.
I don't think the WTS would make much of a fuss over this kind of undertaking, (no pun intended), as they would be happy to have folks that would keep the aging ones and their money as close to the cult as possible. The org has already done a great job of filling folks with fear and a home such as this is certain to perpetuate the thought that going elsewhere, the world is gonna get ya! They state that a staff of only JW's is "absolutely necessary" to "keep oneself without spot from the world."
My dad's Dr. had told us it would be good if he would check out some facilities, like retirement homes as there are several very nice ones locally. Well, you know who lives in those places: Worldly ones. O.K., run an ad and get a roommate for more companionship with a live-in friend. Nope, it would end up being a worldly one. Live with your daughter, me - no way, she stopped attending meetings.
One morning at 2 a.m. at my dad's house, his PO and I had an interesting conversation on this subject of my dad not being able to go live in any kind of a home and be cared for and surrounded by " ungodly, worldly ones." I tried to impress upon him the seriousness of the problem with the aging ones who have been fed this crap about everyone but JW's being wicked, bad influences, demonized or whatever. The discussion went nowhere quick as he tried to shut me down by saying, "well, how old is he now? He won't live much longer."
He didn't, as in hopelessness and despair, he killed himself a few months later. In any case, I have to be glad that if a person is going to follow the mandates of the WTS till death, they at least now have a choice of this kind of facility to reside in.
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Any witnesses celebrating a birthday?
by evergreen in.
my childs bithday is coming up in october and this year im going for it.i have her present bought and everything is in place to give her fantastic day to remember.for to long i have doubted this unfair policy of the borg and push has finally come to shove!.
anyone else doing the same either priavately or openly
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I hope you and your child have a wonderful birthday !!
Just this weekend, I gave my son his first b-day party at 18 years old. A fun time was had by all - the only regret I have is that I didn't get a group photo of all the guys that came to it as it was such a memorable day in his life. One of the guys said he hadn't had a b-day party since he was about 15 and I told him, "would you believe this is the first one my son has EVER had and the first I have been to or given?" He was stunned and received just a brief explanation of the why's and wherefore's as, who wanted to get into all the WTS crap on this special day?
ENJOY!
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Telling my 85 year old dad the reasons why
by littlemike inmt father became a jw during the second world war .
he was conscientous objector before that.he is now 85 years old and i left jw 2 years ago.. on monday i went out with him and something he said just set me off.
in 15 minuted i told him about raymond franz, carl olof johnson, 607bce.
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I simply told her that I was still the little boy she raised all those years ago...that I still carried with me the love of truth - genuine truth - that she'd put in me way back then, and I had to honor the truth as I saw it.
(((teejay))) - so nicely stated and any parent would have to realize they'd done something right to have raised a child able to express such a tender, thoughtful comment. Your mom appears to be very content right where she's at and that's a plus going into those last years. It sounds like you are handling your situation well and I'm sure your thoughts will give everyone a good perspective on supporting a still jw parent, despite your own new thoughts on a belief system.
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Telling my 85 year old dad the reasons why
by littlemike inmt father became a jw during the second world war .
he was conscientous objector before that.he is now 85 years old and i left jw 2 years ago.. on monday i went out with him and something he said just set me off.
in 15 minuted i told him about raymond franz, carl olof johnson, 607bce.
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Hi littlemike ~
No doubt most of us have been in your shoes with going off on 15 minute spiels on something that means alot to us. So, don't feel guilty about speaking your truth. You are your own person, probably for the first time in your life, and that is huge, coming out of jw's. It's about as hard to contain ourselves sometimes as it used to be when we found a person interested in our jw beliefs.
I wanted my father, age 83, to know my reasons for not attending meetings any more. He himself struggled with serious depression, panic attacks, and anxiety - hallmarks of most of the witnesses he knew. I explained that my own family and I had found such relief from these things, after walking away from attending five meetings a week that dished up the constant diet of judgemental attitudes, talk of death and destruction, and had such a lack of true happiness among it's members.
Wouldn't any parent be happy for their child to have improved health and happiness? I know it is a multi-faceted thought with a jw. Not at the expense of leaving "the truth". My father struggled with the cognitive dissonance that question caused him. - as I had also, when my own children were walking away from the upbringing. I had reached the point where I prayed and asked over and over again, how could any religion be "the truth" if it would make a parent feel totally devastated at a child's developing their own mind and utilizing their own thinking abilities?
These are the thoughts I shared with my dad and never did get to any doctrinal issues.He could see I was not a bad person, despite walking away. I was as good to him as ever, yet I was wicked in jw eyes? My family's happiness spoke for itself and he found himself wondering about it all.
He told me days before he took his life, that he had emotional problems and needed more than medicine to help him. He expressed his need to change his core beliefs, which were rooted in the religion, and he sent me on a search for a therapist where he could obtain cognitive behavioral therapy. It's never too late to realize you've been had - but I hope many more come to learn of this sooner than later.
I would suggest you just take it slow with your parent and don't get into too much too soon as it can be overwhelming. I really believe it means alot, deep inside, someplace in a jw parent though, to see their child, no matter their age, exert their own self and be the person they were meant to be.
Warm regards,
4JWY
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Jws and smoking...
by Bryan inwhen was it that the gb decided witnesses could not smoke?.
thanks in advance,.
bryan
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Food and exercise are also important factors for Jehovah's witnesses. For exercise they......get out into the fresh air and occupy their mind and body by standing on the street corners with magazines heralding forth the Kingdom message.
Didn't you know, the best exercise known to man is standing on street corners with magazines??
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YOU ARE VERY IMPORTANT!
by Terry inin all the history of the entire universe there has never been anybody exactly like you!
you are unique!
you are special!
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Always remember: You are unique!
Just like everybody else.
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SNG: Thank you! Love it!
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YOU ARE VERY IMPORTANT!
by Terry inin all the history of the entire universe there has never been anybody exactly like you!
you are unique!
you are special!
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Terry & Farkel ~
You just made me pull out my high school yearbooks from 30 years ago with reference to QUESTIONS
What a kick to look back on the comments school friends made about my questions in the classroom as a then dub:
"Keep your questions going."
"Why do you always ask those ridiculous questions for 4 years?"
"We had a good time in class, but those stupid questions were really unbelievable."
"To the only person who was uninhibited enough to ask questions."
"I'm glad I was in your class 'cuz it was a gas between your questions and Mrs.Tutu."
" It's been a good year even though you did ask kind of foolish questions."
and my favorite:
"Roses are red, violets are blue, you've got a shape like a B-52. Don't ask any more dumb questions."
I am very thankful I have always seemed to have this inquisitive nature as it has brought me to where I am today. There are no stupid questions, even though I may not have an answer.