We knew we had to be up front when we received the first calls upon our walkaway - not making up excuses or hiding, but telling the honest facts - We would not be returning to sit at meetings where we are constantly bombarded with talk of death and destruction and the judging of all. Good mental health is important to my family and I, and we found that the religion and it's beliefs and negativity are not conducive to this. There's not been much they say in response to that.
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26Starting the fade, and getting the "calls".
by kwintestal inso mrs. kwin, like myself, has started the fade.
she's getting visits or calls 2 to 3 times a week from jw's in the hall.
what do you do when you get these visits?
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Kingdom Hall for sale - the pictures
by observador inyou may want to have a look at these pictures.
they're of that hall that is being talked about here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/76089/1.ashx.
when i saw this, i couldn't help but remember of that doctrine that would go like 'the waters of babylon, the great, will dry out and she will see her end', remember?
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How do you reach, THE OWNER to make an offer?
I specifically remember a talk that was given about "Jehovah is the owner of our Kingdom Hall"....
This may be a true SIGN of how to REACH him at his direct number!
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Nosferatu's Classics Vol.1
by Nosferatu ini'm on a mission to find some of the talks i gave in the theocratic ministry school.
so far, i've found one.
i will post more as i find them in the archives at my parents' place.
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Hard to believe I actually wrote that shit. The only reason people enjoyed my talks is because I knew what people wanted to hear. My heart wasn't really in it.
Nos, you mean WE were having OUR ears tickled? Weren't we told that's what Christendom was doing?
Don't feel too bad, now that I recall, I think my little son gave the same talk, almost word for word!
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Nosferatu's Classics Vol.1
by Nosferatu ini'm on a mission to find some of the talks i gave in the theocratic ministry school.
so far, i've found one.
i will post more as i find them in the archives at my parents' place.
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Theme: A Lesson in Paranoia
When we get up in the morning, someone is watching us.When we go to work or school, someone is watching us.When we go to bed at night, someone is watching us.Who is this person?
It is Jehovah God, of course.
He is watching us every minute of the day, keeping account of what
we do.
At armageddon, each of us will be judged on how faithful we've been
to Jehovah, and he knows because he watches us constantly.
While Jehovah is watching us, he is deciding whether each one of us
will be classed as "wicked" or "righteous".
So whenever we do anything, we should keep in mind what verse 3
says:
"The eyes of Jehovah are in every place, keeping watch upon the bad
ones and the good ones."
We should keep this in mind because at armageddon, we will be
judged accordingly.Conclusion: Paranoia will destroy ya.
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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 10-03-04A WT Study (Abbreviated)
by blondie incomments you will not hear at the sunday 10-03-04a wt study (august 15, 2004 issue) abbreviated
review comments
will be in black and parentheses ().
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A married man may be fond of bowling. But if his family cannot enjoy bowling with him, it would be wise and loving if he curtailed this activity.
What a bunch of BS! I gladly accept that my husband has his own individual interests/hobbies and goes off and rides his bicycle for hours at a time if he wants to! Being happily married for 25 years, I feel that is" wise and loving" to allow him the freedom to do what is so meaningful to him, and what keeps him healthy mentally and physically. I wouldn't dream of expecting that I should try to keep up with him on my bicycle or insist that he give up riding to stay home with me. -
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Two JW PO's... and two classic jobs....
by Elsewhere inhttp://www.amnews.com/public_html/?module=displaystory&story_id=9272&format=html.
jehovah's witnesses have 'dos' congregations in danville.
by herb brock .
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\Pa"tri*ot\, n. [F. patriote; cf. Sp. patriota, It. patriotto; all fr. Gr. ? a fellow-countryman, fr. ? established by forefathers, fr. ? father. See Father.] One who loves his country, and zealously supports its authority and interests. --Bp. Hall.
pa·tri·ot ( P ) Pronunciation Key (p
n.- One who loves, supports, and defends one's country.
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What a flagrant lie on the part of the PO! I wonder why Mudge decided to fudge??
fudge ( P ) Pronunciation Key (f
n.- A soft rich candy made of sugar, milk, butter, and flavoring.
- Nonsense; humbug.
v. fudged, fudg·ing, fudg·es
v. tr. - To fake or falsify: fudge casualty figures.
- To evade (an issue, for example); dodge.
v. intr. - To act in an indecisive manner: always fudged on the important questions.
- To go beyond the proper limits of something: fudged on the building code requirements.
- To act dishonestly; cheat.
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No Trespassing!! Breaking news for local JW's.
by Mulan inthis week at the book study, at all congregations in the u.s., a letter was read saying if you go to a house or property with a "no trespassing" sign, you must not enter, or knock on the door.
you have to leave immediately.
a sign saying "no solicitors" is too ambiguous, and they are to use their own judgment, and don't have to knock.
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Just yesterday I was weeding through some of my late dad's things and finally threw away something - now I'm digging it out of the trash to review after seeing this thread topic.
It was a typed copy of our city's municipal codes pertaining to soliciting that he had carried in his wallet for years in a little plastic protector. It was always handy to pull out and shove in someone's face when they called the cops for his being at their door. It would be the highlight of the day for him to put it to use. Persecution, right on!
It showed the city's code for "Uninvited solicitation - Prohibited" and then had 3 big arrows he had drawn pointing downward to the next section which said, "EXCEPTION" - and it was this exception he delighted in reading to them:
" The preceding section shall not be applicable to religious solicitors whose primary purpose is the giving, selling or distribution of religious literature when done as a part of the method of spreading the distributor's religious beliefs."
Dang, this city really messed up on that one.
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JW Care Homes For The Elderly.
by Englishman inhttp://www.jah-jireh.org/index.html
this is a registered charity run by a fella by the name of delaney.. you can become an associate and help them to raise money.
these are the latest figures i could obtain from the uk charity commission.. they seem to be doing ok!financial year startfinancial year endgross incometotal expenditure01 jan 199731 dec 1997114001 jan 199831 dec 199840026901 jan 199931 dec 19993502,10601 jan 200031 dec 2000812,199742,19601 jan 200131 dec 20011,894,4551,703,64401 jan 200231 dec 20022,214,7671,782,906. .
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Englishman,
Thank you for this information and site. I'd wondered if any such facilities existed anywhere and had never heard of any in the U.S.
I don't think the WTS would make much of a fuss over this kind of undertaking, (no pun intended), as they would be happy to have folks that would keep the aging ones and their money as close to the cult as possible. The org has already done a great job of filling folks with fear and a home such as this is certain to perpetuate the thought that going elsewhere, the world is gonna get ya! They state that a staff of only JW's is "absolutely necessary" to "keep oneself without spot from the world."
My dad's Dr. had told us it would be good if he would check out some facilities, like retirement homes as there are several very nice ones locally. Well, you know who lives in those places: Worldly ones. O.K., run an ad and get a roommate for more companionship with a live-in friend. Nope, it would end up being a worldly one. Live with your daughter, me - no way, she stopped attending meetings.
One morning at 2 a.m. at my dad's house, his PO and I had an interesting conversation on this subject of my dad not being able to go live in any kind of a home and be cared for and surrounded by " ungodly, worldly ones." I tried to impress upon him the seriousness of the problem with the aging ones who have been fed this crap about everyone but JW's being wicked, bad influences, demonized or whatever. The discussion went nowhere quick as he tried to shut me down by saying, "well, how old is he now? He won't live much longer."
He didn't, as in hopelessness and despair, he killed himself a few months later. In any case, I have to be glad that if a person is going to follow the mandates of the WTS till death, they at least now have a choice of this kind of facility to reside in.
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Any witnesses celebrating a birthday?
by evergreen in.
my childs bithday is coming up in october and this year im going for it.i have her present bought and everything is in place to give her fantastic day to remember.for to long i have doubted this unfair policy of the borg and push has finally come to shove!.
anyone else doing the same either priavately or openly
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I hope you and your child have a wonderful birthday !!
Just this weekend, I gave my son his first b-day party at 18 years old. A fun time was had by all - the only regret I have is that I didn't get a group photo of all the guys that came to it as it was such a memorable day in his life. One of the guys said he hadn't had a b-day party since he was about 15 and I told him, "would you believe this is the first one my son has EVER had and the first I have been to or given?" He was stunned and received just a brief explanation of the why's and wherefore's as, who wanted to get into all the WTS crap on this special day?
ENJOY!
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Telling my 85 year old dad the reasons why
by littlemike inmt father became a jw during the second world war .
he was conscientous objector before that.he is now 85 years old and i left jw 2 years ago.. on monday i went out with him and something he said just set me off.
in 15 minuted i told him about raymond franz, carl olof johnson, 607bce.
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I simply told her that I was still the little boy she raised all those years ago...that I still carried with me the love of truth - genuine truth - that she'd put in me way back then, and I had to honor the truth as I saw it.
(((teejay))) - so nicely stated and any parent would have to realize they'd done something right to have raised a child able to express such a tender, thoughtful comment. Your mom appears to be very content right where she's at and that's a plus going into those last years. It sounds like you are handling your situation well and I'm sure your thoughts will give everyone a good perspective on supporting a still jw parent, despite your own new thoughts on a belief system.