one of the things that i could never rationalize is the way the jws all claim to believe the same things.
i mean seriously, you can't get 4 people to decide on dinner!
how are you going to get 6 million to agree on countless and everchanging doctrinal pronouncements.
none of them agree with all of the teachings. They all have things they disagree with.
So very true. Every dub has something that can be used to open their mind.
So then I brought this up to my wife. At first the cult personality resisted but she had to admit that she doesn't agree with everything. (...) She even muttered something about "many of these minor things just come from men".
Very good suggestion! It can be the first crack on the WT mould.
it's that time again - that special time of the year when 6 million jehovah's witnesses meet together to reject the.
symbols of christian salvation.. never mind that jesus clearly said "he that feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has everlasting life, and i shall resurrect.
him on the last day" (john 6:54) - in a plain reference to those who hoped in the general resurrection.. never mind that jesus is called the "one mediator between god and man" ( 1 tim.2:5).
bttt for the Memorial season.
years ago, there was perhaps the most pathetic jw funeral talk in the whole history of the watchtower.. an old bethel brother named adam baurlein ( sp, not sure) had died.
he had a long history of alcoholism and misbehavior.. he had been at bethel so long that bethelite sons of former bethelites would inquire "dad, did you know this really old guy.
who drinks and tells dirty jokes?".
Thanks for your excellent post, Scully!
Neo
the following is quoted in it's entirety (excepting cited scriptures after each question) from the new release organized to do jehovah's will, pages 182-218.. .
questions for those desiring to be baptized.
part 1 elementary bible teachings.
Welcome bonnzo! That was what I was thinking too. Compare the questions for baptism with the biblical account:
Act 16:30 Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
Act 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus, and thou shalt be saved, thou and thy house.
Act 16:32 And they spake the word of the Lord unto him, with all that were in his house.
Act 16:33 And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, immediately.
Act 16:34 And he brought them up into his house, and set food before them, and rejoiced greatly, with all his house, having believed in God.
Curiously, a few NT manuscripts add more info into the eunuch account in the empty verse 37:
Act 8:36 And as they went on the way, they came unto a certain water; and the eunuch saith, Behold, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
Act 8:37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thy heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
Act 8:38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they both went down into the water, both Philip and the eunuch, and he baptized him.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7231414/
'scarborough country' for march 17 .
read the transcript to the thursday show
He has never been DF or DA, so technically he's still a JW.
the following is quoted in it's entirety (excepting cited scriptures after each question) from the new release organized to do jehovah's will, pages 182-218.. .
questions for those desiring to be baptized.
part 1 elementary bible teachings.
Sparkplug,
That is full of Crap... I have a nephew and niece who have "infectious or a potentially fatal disease to others". They are little children. Cannot something be done legally about this? Can they actually ask people to name themselves as having diseases and why the HELL sould they have to inform the Presiding overseer. Is it his business at ALL?
Pissed me off.... really angry here.
Yeah, you got it.
the following is quoted in it's entirety (excepting cited scriptures after each question) from the new release organized to do jehovah's will, pages 182-218.. .
questions for those desiring to be baptized.
part 1 elementary bible teachings.
Thanks for putting this together!! It's a lot of work!
The Sunday announcement said that the questions have been "simplified". And that's true; the questions are essentially the same but they made three basic modifications:
There are quite a few interesting small changes. I unfortunately don't have time now to comment on them, but one of the questions is new in this book and really stands out.
9. To avoid transmitting an infectious or a potentially fatal disease to others, why should an infected person (a) not initiate public displays of affection, such as hugging and kissing? (b) attend the Congregation Book Study at the Kingdom Hall if at all possible? (c) not react negatively when some choose not to invite him into their homes? (d) Why should a person who may have been exposed to an infectious disease voluntarily choose to have a blood test before beginning a courtship? (e) Why should one having a communicable disease inform the presiding overseer before getting baptized?
The WT is encouraging prejudice against those who are HIV positive because, rather than encourage Witnesses to show love to the "infected person," the Society is giving a free pass to the dubs to treat HIV-positive Witnesses differently.
So much for Christian love.
Neo
i had been sent a copy some months back but the file seems corrupted.
if anyone here would be kind enough to share a download link or is willing to ftp to my private, anonymous webspace that would be great!
pm me with questions or offers.. nic'
bttt
i am just giggling myself inside out with the stupid antics regarding the march 20 release of the new org book.. of course, in great irony, only the apostates seem to know what's going on.. meanwhile in the congregations, a excitment tinged with mystery and suspense is tweaking the r&f.
my entire book study was just about begging the conductor for any hint.. to emphasize the surprise, congregations that meet on saturday (march 19) are actually moving their public/wt meetings to sunday just for the event.
just imagine the drool letdown when they find out the truth, that old br.
Yeah, it has been pointed to me that that is the cover in Spanish. Organized to Do Jehovah's Will. And this time they didn't even try to sound different - same color, same format (hardback).
It's indeed amusing that XJWs are ahead on the release of this new book.
i am just giggling myself inside out with the stupid antics regarding the march 20 release of the new org book.. of course, in great irony, only the apostates seem to know what's going on.. meanwhile in the congregations, a excitment tinged with mystery and suspense is tweaking the r&f.
my entire book study was just about begging the conductor for any hint.. to emphasize the surprise, congregations that meet on saturday (march 19) are actually moving their public/wt meetings to sunday just for the event.
just imagine the drool letdown when they find out the truth, that old br.
I am incredibly happy that I don't have to pretend to be overjoyed to receive a small, probably green, book on organizational procedure.SNG
