Posts by zack

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Who masterminded the WT mind control 'routine'? Was it deliberate?

by Gill in

is the wt policy of five meetings a week, daily text, book study prep, book study, thursday meeting prep, thursday meeting, watchtower pre study, public talk, watchtower study, a deliberate ploy to keep the members under mind control?.

is this 'routine' carefully thought out and planned by someone or did the watchtower society just evolve this way 'accidentally'?.

is there a 'mastermind' at work aiming to keep jws tightly under mind control and if so , who is it?.

zack

The answer to your question is :Satan.

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 6-24-07 WT Study (Youths Goals Honor God)

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 06-24-07 wt study (may 1, 2007, pages 24-29)(youths goals honor god)(notepad).

review comments will be in red.

wt material from today's wt will be in black.

zack

Considering that Christ came and died so that humans could live a "normal" life, this article is shameful. The writer of the article is either deluded, ignorant, or a deceitful manipulator. To call his fellow JW's "Christians" is also dishonest, since no JW('cept for 9000 or so diehards who partake every year) wants be with Christ, they all want pet lions and to play upon the hole of a cobra in their native garb while using machinery that emits no CO2. They(the WTS) clearly do not want and have never wanted the best for their members. As for Paul exhorting Timothy to fight the fine fight for the faith, it was just that: FOR THE FAITH--- the faith in JesusChrist and the call to be with Him in the house of his Father. That faith is no where seen in any Kingdom Hall. It seems JW have lost that fight.

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Will they encourage marriage and having many children?

by OnTheWayOut in

since 1995 and the "generation" change, many jw's have gone ahead and had .

fairly normal lives instead of waiting until the new system.

by 1995, the 1975 mentality .

zack

You knew the Confederacy was losing the War Between the States when 13 and 14 year olds started donning uniforms and heading to battle. You knew Germany was losing WWII when the Hitler Youth was enlisted with real arms and sent into battle. Anytime a movement or cause is willing to sacrifice their young, you know it is in trouble. Same with the WTS. It is a generation away from dieing out in Europe. The USA will hang on longer. My wife was baptized at 9 years of age. 9 years old. It is shameful that this religion enslaves its children under the guise of "salvation." I am ashamed I was a part of it for so long. The good they may have done or may ever do will never mitigate the evil and pain they have caused.

Yes, to your question. Have babies. Be a family. That way we can blackmail you into staying because if you leave we"ll make sure you lose everything. These guys are evil.

OTWO: Hope all is going well with your own situation.

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E-watchman says Ray Franz is 'animalistic' LOL!

by yaddayadda in

jw
friends

in a critique of 'captives of a concept', robert king accuses anyone who can't get past all of the watchtower society's 'obstacles' as animalistic and lacking spirituality, including don cameron and ray franz.

it's mindblowing how this bloke can consistently call the watchtower leaders liars, blind, false prophets, dishing up vomitous things, etc, yet continue to preach that they are still a 'faithful steward' uniquely appointed by christ.

so, while it is true that jehovahs witnesses have not come to know the judgment of jehovah, cameron is similarly captive to a concept; and hence, ignorant of jehovahs judgment.

zack

The guy is more deluded than those he chastises. He truely is a lunatic.

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"The Truth", who coined the term, when did it begin circulating in JW land

by Bob Loblaw in

anytime i hear one of my family members or any other jw say the phrase "the truth" in a sentence it makes my blood boil.

christians of different denominations may ask each other: .

"how long have you been a christian?".

zack

I'm pretty sure by now that Satan must have coined the term.

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Borg Cost cutting measures...can you think of others?

by SnakesInTheTower in

i was reflecting on the other thread (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/135961/2.ashx) about the new koolaid watchtower....and thinking about this being more of an overall cost cutting measure than any kind of old light repackaged as special lite.......can you think of any other examples?

a few examples: no more subscriptions (no more yellow envelopes, no more yellow, blue, green, pink forms).

no more postages sending individual magazines.. kingdom ministry now sent in same box as magazines rather than separate roll of kms to po house.

zack

Well, to me, the best cost cutting method of all would be to liquidate all assets, give the proceeds to the poor, and get out of BUSINESS. Of course, only a just God would ensure that would happen.

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So..You donate your money, and then you have to pay intrest on it??!!

by Lady Liberty in

good morning everyone "happy thursday!!",.

just reading another thread, and it made me think of a question i could never answer as a jw.

how is it that when your hall wants to build, you recieve the "loan" from the society, but then you have to pay the loan back with intrest??!!.

zack

To be fair, the WTS charges about 3% a year simple interest on a loan, which is currently about the rate of inflation. If interest is not charged, at least at the rate of inflation, it erodes the value of the fund. The local Kingdom Halls are not owned by the WTS, they are owned by a local not for profit which is the cong. holding the territory where the building is located. 3 elders are trustees of the property and the elders are appointed by the WTS, and yes, they will do whatever the WTS wants.

Of course, local congos. can rent or lease a facility instead of purchasing one. Either way, the expense is borne by the contributors who own nothing in the end, not even the "treasures in heaven" they believe they are accumulating for themselves.

The Assembly Halls, on the other hand, are a different story.

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Update! Drew Sagan is no longer a Jehovah's Witness

by drew sagan in

jw
friends

as promised here is all of the info regarding what has been going on.

per the last jc with the elders i realized that all i had done was buy time.

they felt that we should be df'ed right on the spot, but because i made a plea to wait for a letter coming back from the wts they decided to hold on taking such action.

zack

I know you will both be much happier. That is a fact. The long nightmare is over and you can live for real.

Your's is but one more example that while the Watchtower Society uses the name "Jehovah" and treats it like some sort of talisman, they know absolutely nothing about Him. They claim to perform their works in the "name" of God, and yet they are so far alienated from the Person and Character and Quality of the God represented by the name.

You have escaped. I suspect Mommy and Daddy may join you.

All the best.

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What kind of MS / Elder / Co / Do were you?

by Gill in

there are many on the board who formerly, and some who still do, hold positions of power in the borg.. would you describe yourself as having been a 'good' elder, or a 'bad' elder?.

did you leave because you 'couldn't live up to jehovah's standards' or did you leave 'because you woke up and smelt the bull shit?'.

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zack

I was the kind that good people loved and assholes hated. I wasn't a company man. I never voted with sending cong. funds to the Branch. I thought I was doing the right thing for the right reasons. I wish I could have seen it all sooner.

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JW dies refusing blood after Caesarean

by Gayle in

http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20070621b1.html.

thursday, june 21, 2007. .

jehovah's witness shuns blood, dies.

zack

A mother Dead. A child orphaned. Yes, this is exactly what a loving, compassionate Creator wants.

The WTS is EVIL.